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Re: size of

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Date 2013-08-20 01:02 -0700
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Subject Re: size of
From Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com>

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On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:42:19 AM UTC+1, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> On 18-Aug-13 02:22, Rosario1903 wrote:
> 
> Why not just always use size_t and let the compiler take care of
> ensuring it's large enough to index the largest arrays that the
> implementation can create--be that 16, 32, 64 or some other number of bits?
> 
Because of the plug and socket problem. If you could train everyone to be
absolutely consistent in using size_t for an index variable, then that
solution would be viable. But people won't, largely because of the choice
of name, and the underscore.
If you've got a function that returns an array of employees, and its
size, people might write

EMPLOYEE *getemployees(int *N);
or
EMPLOYEE *getemployees(size_t *N);

it's most unlikely that the number of employees will exceed the range of an 
int, but, technically, int is only guaranteed 16 bits, and some companies
have more that 32768 employees.

You find yourself writing code like

size_t *intarraytosize_t(int *x, size_t N);

just to code round the interfaces. Or worse, someone will say "size_t is really
just an int, so I'll save myself the bother. (size_t *)x".

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