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| From | Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.math |
| Subject | Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") |
| Date | 2024-06-02 23:51 -0400 |
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On 6/2/2024 4:43 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 06/02/2024 12:23 PM, Jim Burns wrote: >> What is "the continuum limit"? >> You spend considerable electrons detailing >> all the usual ideas you are using. >> But "the continuum limit" isn't a usual limit. >> >> The usual limit(s) all give >> the rationals and only the rationals. >> lim(d → ∞) ⟦0/d!,1/d!,…,d!/d!⟧ = [0,1]∩ℚ >> and so on. >> >> I'd be interested in seeing something that >> shows me I'm wrong, but >> your "continuum limit" looks to me like >> you (RF) have assumed that the limit is >> the continuum. > > Nope, > "continuum limit" is just that in the limit, > that it's _named_ continuum limit > because its limit _is_ the continuum, > not that its limit _is_ the continuum > because it's _named_ that. | In mathematical physics and mathematics, | the continuum limit or | scaling limit of a lattice model | characterizes its behaviour in the limit | as the lattice spacing goes to zero. | It is often useful to use lattice models | to approximate real-world processes, | such as Brownian motion. | Indeed, according to Donsker's theorem, | the discrete random walk would, | in the scaling limit, | approach the true Brownian motion. | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuum_limit Okay, the lattice spacing goes to zero, here, so this is the continuum limit. lim(d → ∞) ⟦0/d!,1/d!,…,d!/d!⟧ However, the continuum limit (the lattice spacing going to zero) isn't the continuum (everywhere.continuous functions never jumping) Continuum.limited ℚ is not Dedekind.complete. _For continuous functions_ values at lattice spacing going to zero determines a unique answer. So, for continuous physical processes, that might well be a distinction without a difference. However, lim(d → ∞) ⟦0/d!,1/d!,…,d!/d!⟧ is is the.continuum.limit but is.not the.continuum. Consider a sequence of geometrically.shrinking intervals which cover each point in ⟦0/d!,1/d!,…,d!/d!⟧ ⎛ (-β/2²+0/d!,0/d!+β/2²) ⎜ (-β/2³+1/d!,1/d!+β/2³) ⎜ (-β/2⁴+2/d!,2/d!+β/2⁴) ⎜ ... ⎝ (-β/2ᵈꜝ⁺²+d!/d!,d!/d!+β/2ᵈꜝ⁺²) with lengths which add up to β/2¹ + β/2² + β/2³ + ... + β/2ᵈꜝ⁺¹ = β⋅(1-⅟2ᵈꜝ⁺¹) Even in the limit, there is _positive_ number which must be less than those covering intervals. That isn't the continuum.
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Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-22 10:14 -0400
Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-22 06:23 -0400
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 12:08 -0700
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-19 15:46 +0000
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-23 12:10 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-23 15:52 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-26 18:53 +0000
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-27 13:46 -0400
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-30 07:44 +0000
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-04 17:31 -0400
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-05 22:54 +0200
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Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-05 12:03 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-05 20:33 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-05 22:56 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-05 20:39 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-05 17:31 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-06 13:27 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 15:44 +0200
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-06 14:35 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-06 20:14 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-07 14:00 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-07 19:21 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-07 17:00 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 22:34 -0700
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-08 07:21 -0400
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 13:25 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 12:13 -0700
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 18:49 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:26 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 15:57 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 18:45 +0200
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 14:20 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 23:34 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 17:45 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 15:18 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 22:05 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-10 16:50 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:25 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:33 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:06 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 14:36 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 16:50 +0200
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:22 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:27 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:02 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 01:16 +0200
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 14:16 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-08 22:20 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:38 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 14:02 -0400
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-08 20:40 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-09 04:28 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-09 06:19 -0400
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-09 12:38 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 16:33 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 16:16 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 22:29 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 16:59 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 22:30 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 10:24 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-12 14:29 +0200
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Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 16:40 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:44 +0000
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 16:51 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:22 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:23 -0700
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 19:46 -0400
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 19:37 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 01:44 +0200
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Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 20:37 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 02:45 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 18:55 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 04:23 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-13 06:09 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 13:57 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 00:24 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-14 21:06 -0400
Re: how Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 19:51 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 15:09 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 14:39 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:09 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:24 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-17 14:31 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-18 00:00 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-17 18:39 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-18 01:16 +0200
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 12:10 -0700
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 17:47 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 02:15 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:57 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 08:53 -0400
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 13:41 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 12:25 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 14:44 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 16:57 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 18:53 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 22:22 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-12 14:25 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 13:30 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 10:21 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 12:54 -0700
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 14:18 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 18:27 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 14:54 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:33 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 17:12 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:55 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 09:16 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 15:25 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:59 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 12:13 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 21:44 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 00:05 +0200
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 17:02 -0400
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-06-13 02:14 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 13:53 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:28 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:55 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:02 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:13 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:26 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:48 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:55 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 18:04 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 18:44 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 18:03 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 21:39 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:48 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 13:17 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:47 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:56 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 19:01 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:34 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:41 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:55 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:46 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 13:01 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 14:25 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:34 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-14 10:56 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:39 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:53 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-14 14:52 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 17:58 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 18:00 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 18:06 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 09:19 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 18:35 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 09:45 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 19:12 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 10:32 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 19:14 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-15 13:30 -0400
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:45 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:50 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 05:56 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:20 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 21:46 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:15 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 05:47 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 03:13 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-16 14:17 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-18 13:12 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-18 20:09 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-18 17:06 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 13:45 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 08:22 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 14:50 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:39 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:53 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:07 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:23 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:28 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:40 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:01 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:09 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:35 +0200
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:39 -0700
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:33 +0000
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:38 +0000
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 21:01 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 04:37 +0200
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:57 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:56 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:41 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 11:30 -0700
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-14 17:21 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 23:42 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 23:43 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-16 14:21 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:05 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:11 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 21:41 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 21:51 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-17 00:52 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:11 -0700
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-18 20:13 +0000
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:04 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:48 +0000
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:40 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 11:30 -0700
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Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 20:16 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:59 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 01:47 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 20:12 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-07 11:01 +0000
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