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Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential")

From Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net>
Newsgroups sci.math
Subject Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential")
Date 2024-06-02 15:23 -0400
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On 5/31/2024 9:37 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 05/31/2024 11:32 AM, Jim Burns wrote:

>> [...]
>
> This putative f called
> EF the equivalency function,
> f(n) = n/d, 0 <= n <= d,
> d -> oo in the continuum limit,
> _can not see its elements exchanged_,
> it _can not be re-ordered_,
> due the contrivance of how
> it's standardly modeled as
> a limit of real functions, and that
> the continuum limit is not-a-real-function,
> due the contrivance
> it cannot be found its disorder,
> it's "not Cartesian".

The Dirac delta function δ(x) is
not.a.real.function.

Whatever it's _called_
δ(x) is _a certain kind_ of limit of
a sequence of increasingly peaky functions.
There are many good choices for peaky functions.
For example, dₙ(x) = n⋅exp(-½⋅n²x²)/√​̅2​̅π

for x≠0:  limₙ dₙ(x)  =  0
for β>0:  limₙ ∫₋ᵦ⁺ᵝdₙ(x)⋅dx  =  1

A typical use of δ(x) is
∫ f(x)⋅δ(x-x₀)⋅dx  =  f(x₀)

_What that means_ is
limₙ ∫ f(x)⋅dₙ(x-x₀)⋅dx  =  f(x₀)

The peakiness limit n ⟶ ∞ comes last.

δ(x) is not.a.real.function.
δ(x) is not a limit of functions dₙ(x).
δ(x) is a placeholder for a peaky function,
for a limit.to.be.determined.later.

δ(x) is not.a.real.function.
δ(x) is not a function, full stop.
No value δ(0) exists such that
for β>0:  ∫₋ᵦ⁺ᵝδ(0)⋅dx  =  1


Consider your EF equivalency function,
| f(n) = n/d, 0 <= n <= d,
| d -> oo in the continuum limit,

EF is not a function, full stop.

If EF is a function,
then EF can be composed with a function which
transposes y1 and y2
Since it can't, it isn't.

I don't know that EF _needs_ to be a function,
but its non.function.hood makes
the lack of sense of EF⁻¹(0.5) make sense,
just as the lack of sense of δ(0) makes sense.

----
What is "the continuum limit"?
You spend considerable electrons detailing
all the usual ideas you are using.
But "the continuum limit" isn't a usual limit.

The usual limit(s) all give
the rationals and only the rationals.
lim(d → ∞) ⟦0/d!,1/d!,…,d!/d!⟧ = [0,1]∩ℚ
and so on.

I'd be interested in seeing something that
shows me I'm wrong, but
your "continuum limit" looks to me like
you (RF) have assumed that the limit is the continuum.

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                Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 15:51 -0700
                Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 16:34 -0700
                Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 11:34 -0700
                Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 22:30 -0700
                Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-04 16:04 -0400
                Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-23 07:04 -0700
                Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-27 13:03 -0700
                Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-22 10:14 -0400
                Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-22 06:23 -0400
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-05-17 19:03 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-19 15:52 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 12:08 -0700
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-17 19:29 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-19 03:10 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 12:19 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-19 15:46 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-19 18:49 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-19 16:28 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-20 20:08 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-21 11:50 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-21 16:55 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-21 22:35 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-21 19:27 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-22 19:13 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-22 16:48 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-22 23:44 +0200
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-05-23 13:44 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-26 18:40 +0000
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-05-26 20:02 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-27 14:14 +0000
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-23 12:10 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-23 15:52 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-26 18:53 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-26 17:44 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-27 14:09 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-27 13:46 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-27 20:10 +0000
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-05-27 19:00 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-28 08:20 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-28 15:42 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-29 17:11 +0000
                Re: how Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-05-29 19:30 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-29 18:19 +0000
                Re: how Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-05-29 21:20 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-29 14:29 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-30 07:44 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-30 16:24 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-31 17:15 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-31 15:15 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-01 15:15 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-03 04:57 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-03 11:58 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-03 14:34 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-03 19:50 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-03 22:07 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-04 14:10 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-04 17:31 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-05 10:43 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-05 13:21 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-05 20:32 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-05 22:54 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-05 17:08 +0200
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-05 12:03 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-05 20:33 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-05 22:56 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-05 15:28 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-05 20:39 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-05 17:31 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-06 13:27 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 15:44 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 16:04 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 16:05 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-06 14:35 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-06 20:14 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-07 14:00 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-07 19:21 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-07 17:00 -0400
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 22:34 -0700
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-08 07:21 -0400
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 13:25 -0400
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 12:13 -0700
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 18:49 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:26 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 15:57 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 16:39 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 18:45 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 17:37 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 14:20 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 23:34 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 13:09 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 17:45 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 15:18 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 22:05 +0200
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-10 16:50 -0400
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:25 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:33 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:06 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 14:36 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 16:50 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 12:28 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:22 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:27 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:02 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 01:16 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 01:18 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-08 12:42 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 14:16 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-08 22:20 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 18:47 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-09 00:59 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-09 11:53 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:38 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 14:02 -0400
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-08 20:40 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-09 04:28 +0200
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-09 06:19 -0400
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-09 12:38 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 16:33 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 16:16 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 22:29 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 14:45 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 16:59 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 18:56 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 22:30 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 10:24 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-12 14:29 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 18:22 +0000
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 16:40 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:44 +0000
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 16:51 -0400
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:22 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:23 -0700
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 19:46 -0400
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 19:37 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 01:44 +0200
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 20:00 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 02:21 +0200
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 20:37 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 02:45 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 18:55 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 04:23 +0200
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-13 06:09 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 13:57 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 00:24 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-14 21:06 -0400
                Re: how Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 19:51 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 15:09 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 14:39 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:09 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:24 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-17 14:31 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-18 00:00 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-17 18:39 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-18 01:16 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 01:40 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 12:10 -0700
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 17:47 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 02:15 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:57 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 08:53 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 01:33 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:59 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 13:41 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 12:25 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 14:44 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 16:57 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 18:53 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 22:22 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 10:18 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-12 14:25 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 13:30 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 10:21 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 12:54 -0700
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 14:18 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 18:27 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 14:54 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:33 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 17:12 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:55 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 09:16 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 15:25 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:45 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:59 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 12:13 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 21:44 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 00:05 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 00:08 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 17:02 -0400
                Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-06-13 02:14 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 02:26 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 13:53 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:28 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:55 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:02 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:13 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:26 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:48 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:55 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 18:04 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 18:12 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 18:44 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 18:03 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 21:39 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 23:52 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:48 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 13:17 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:29 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:47 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:56 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 19:01 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:34 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:41 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:55 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:46 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 13:01 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 14:25 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:34 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-14 10:56 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:39 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:53 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-14 14:52 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 17:58 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 18:00 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 18:06 +0200
                Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 09:19 -0700
                Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 18:35 +0200
                Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 09:45 -0700
                Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 19:12 +0200
                Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 10:32 -0700
                Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 19:14 +0200
                Re: how (point at infinity) Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-15 13:30 -0400
                Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:45 +0200
                Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:50 +0200
                Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 05:56 -0700
                Re: how (point at infinity) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:20 -0700
                Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 21:46 +0200
                Re: how (point at infinity) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:15 -0700
                Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 05:47 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 03:13 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-16 14:17 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-18 13:12 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-18 20:09 +0000
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 13:45 +0000
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 08:22 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 14:50 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:39 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:53 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:07 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:23 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:28 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:40 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:01 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:09 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:35 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:38 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:39 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:44 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 15:58 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:33 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:37 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:47 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:49 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 01:09 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:15 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 03:28 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 03:41 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 03:43 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 12:31 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-12 01:33 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:20 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 01:28 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:54 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 03:07 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 12:41 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 12:43 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 13:00 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-12 01:24 +0200
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 06:50 -0400
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 06:49 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:33 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 16:03 +0200
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 13:43 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 17:50 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 22:14 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:40 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:50 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 10:52 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-07 10:59 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 11:59 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 12:00 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 13:18 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:38 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 13:51 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 13:57 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 21:01 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 04:37 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:04 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:32 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:56 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:00 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:10 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:57 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:56 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:41 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 11:30 -0700
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-14 17:21 -0400
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 23:42 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 23:43 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-16 14:21 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:05 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:11 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 21:41 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 21:51 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-17 00:52 +0200
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:11 -0700
                Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-17 20:04 -0400
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-18 20:13 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:13 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-17 21:19 +0000
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:58 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:03 -0700
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:04 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:48 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 14:28 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:31 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:53 -0700
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:40 +0000
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 11:30 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 22:43 +0200
                Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 20:16 -0400
                Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:59 -0700
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 01:47 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 20:11 +0200
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 20:12 +0200
                Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-07 11:01 +0000
                Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-07 13:06 +0200

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