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| From | Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.math |
| Subject | Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") |
| Date | 2024-06-03 06:52 -0400 |
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On 6/3/2024 12:32 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 06/02/2024 08:51 PM, Jim Burns wrote:
>> [...]
>
> Well, the idea is that
> it goes with the same notion as
> "ubiquitous ordinals".
What is it going with ubiquitous ordinals?
What are ubiquitous ordinals when they're at home?
> That is to say,
> the domain and range are natural integers,
> and the quotients only defined on those.
Is this the same as the rationals?
> I.e., you can notice there isn't any other
> model of real numbers built yet or available,
> that's all there is to it at that point.
Are you (RF) intending quotients of integers
to be a model of the continuum?
> There isn't the field or rationals
> yet defined there,
Defined where?
> only those integer quotients representing parts,
> there's nothing between those integers on the lattice,
> except ran(f) this non-integer part between each.
Is this the same as the rationals?
Are you (RF) intending quotients of integers
to be a model of the continuum?
> The "ubiquitous ordinals"
> is for set theory and
> a contradistinction
:
I'll probably regret asking, but YOLO
A _distinction_ makes things _distinct_ different.
Is a _contradistinction_ the opposite of that,
a similarity?
> a contradistinction between numbering and counting,
> where it's so that
> successor is order type, and also, is powerset,
Be right back. Head exploding.
Please, please say what you mean another way..
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.
> so, that there's no missing set for
> otherwise the usual what's called "anti-diagonal"
> or for the powerset result properly,
The powerset result which seems
closest to relevant here
has the set {x ∈ A: x ∉ F(x)} missing
from the image F(A) of F: A → 𝒫(A)
Is that the result you refer to?
If that is the result you refer to,
how is that result affected by being
about numbering and/or counting?
> that's also arithmetized and
> called the diagonal method, or here
> the anti-diagonal.
> This reflects that for an integer continuum,
Are there any distinctions you (RF) draw
between "integer continuum" and
"four.cornered triangle"?
> This reflects that for an integer continuum,
> there's a sort of "only-increment"
> to complement this "only-diagonal" construction,
> as I've written since about twenty-five years.
>
> See, I always knew I was right, so, ....
Do you have any theories about why
no one seems to have noticed
you always being right?
> I'm glad you've found
> "continuum limit" on the Wiki these days.
Do you agree with the Wiki that
continuum limit does not imply continuum
?
> In the old days
> we just proved it for ourselves.
In the old days
did you say what you meant by "continuum limit"?
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Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-04 16:04 -0400
Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-23 07:04 -0700
Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-05-27 13:03 -0700
Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-22 10:14 -0400
Re: how (Aristotle says "potential is actual and actual is potential") Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-22 06:23 -0400
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 12:08 -0700
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-17 19:29 -0400
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-19 15:46 +0000
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-27 13:46 -0400
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Re: how Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-05-29 19:30 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-03 11:58 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-03 14:34 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-03 19:50 +0000
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-04 17:31 -0400
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-05 17:08 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-05 12:03 -0400
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-05 22:56 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-05 20:39 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-05 17:31 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-06 13:27 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 15:44 +0200
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-06 14:35 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-06 20:14 +0000
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-07 17:00 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 22:34 -0700
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-08 07:21 -0400
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 13:25 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 12:13 -0700
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 18:49 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:26 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 15:57 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 18:45 +0200
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 14:20 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 23:34 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 13:09 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 17:45 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 15:18 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 22:05 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-10 16:50 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:25 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:33 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:06 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 14:36 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 16:50 +0200
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:22 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:27 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:02 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 01:16 +0200
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 14:16 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-08 22:20 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-08 18:47 -0400
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:38 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 14:02 -0400
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-08 20:40 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-09 04:28 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-09 06:19 -0400
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-09 12:38 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 16:33 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-10 16:16 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 22:29 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 16:59 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 22:30 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 10:24 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-12 14:29 +0200
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Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 16:40 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:44 +0000
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 16:51 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:22 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:23 -0700
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 19:46 -0400
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 19:37 -0400
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Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 20:37 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 02:45 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 18:55 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 04:23 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-13 06:09 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 13:57 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 00:24 +0200
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Re: how Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 19:51 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 15:09 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 14:39 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:09 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:24 +0200
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Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-17 18:39 -0400
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 12:10 -0700
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 17:47 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 02:15 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:57 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 08:53 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 01:33 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 13:41 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 12:25 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 14:44 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 16:57 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-11 18:53 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 22:22 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-12 14:25 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 13:30 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 10:21 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 12:54 -0700
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 14:18 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 18:27 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-12 14:54 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:33 +0000
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:55 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 09:16 -0400
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:59 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 12:13 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 21:44 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 00:05 +0200
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Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-06-13 02:14 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 13:53 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:28 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:55 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:02 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:13 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:26 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:48 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:55 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 18:04 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 18:44 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 18:03 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 21:39 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:48 +0000
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:47 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:56 +0000
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:41 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:55 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:46 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 13:01 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 14:25 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:34 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-14 10:56 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 16:39 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:53 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-14 14:52 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 17:58 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 18:00 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 18:06 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 09:19 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 18:35 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 09:45 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 19:12 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 10:32 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-15 19:14 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-15 13:30 -0400
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:45 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 01:50 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 05:56 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:20 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 21:46 +0200
Re: how (point at infinity) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:15 -0700
Re: how (point at infinity) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 05:47 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 03:13 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-16 14:17 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-18 13:12 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-18 20:09 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-18 17:06 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 13:45 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-13 08:22 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 14:50 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:39 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:53 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:23 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:28 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:40 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:01 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:09 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:44 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 15:58 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:33 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:37 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:47 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 15:49 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 01:09 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:15 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 03:28 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 03:41 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 03:43 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 12:31 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-12 01:33 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 16:20 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 01:28 +0200
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 13:00 -0700
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 13:33 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 16:03 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-10 17:50 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-10 22:14 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-11 00:50 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 10:52 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-07 10:59 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 11:59 -0700
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 13:18 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:38 +0000
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 21:01 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 04:37 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:04 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 16:32 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 17:00 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 15:10 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:57 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:56 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:41 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 11:30 -0700
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-14 17:21 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 23:42 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 23:43 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-16 14:21 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:05 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:11 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 21:41 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-16 21:51 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-17 00:52 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:11 -0700
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-17 20:04 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-18 20:13 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:13 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-17 21:19 +0000
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-12 20:58 +0000
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 14:04 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 10:48 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 14:28 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-13 14:31 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:53 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-14 08:40 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 11:30 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-14 22:43 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-06-12 20:16 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 11:59 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-13 01:47 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 20:11 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-06 20:12 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-07 11:01 +0000
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