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Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time

From Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se>
Newsgroups alt.sys.pdp10
Subject Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time
Date 2025-12-17 10:31 +0100
Organization MGT Consulting
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On 2025-12-17 04:12, Rich Alderson wrote:
> jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> writes:
> 
>   [ snip lots of good stuff]
> 
> Congratulations!
> 
>> 2. Any ideas what's going on with LAT? TOPS-10 is the only LAT-able
>> system that's not showing up.
> 
> I don't remember LAT existing before Tops-10/TOPS-20 went away...

LAT certainly existed. Another sub-mode of OPR at least in TOPS-20. But 
there might be issues with Tops-10. I don't know enough about that.

>> 3. What's the best method of entering node names into the DECnet
>> database? VMS has 'copy known nodes from whatever to both', and TOPS-20
>> has SETNOD. Linux has decnet.conf and Pydecnet has its own file. Right
>> now I'm entering them by hand with NCP> set node whatever name
>> whatever. There's got to be a better way. Should I make a NODES.CMD and
>> TAKE NODES.CMD in the startup files? Do they disappear on power-down?
> 
> Never used DECnet, so I can't answer this.

Yeah. Nodes are not in any permanent database. You need to define them 
each time Tops-10 boots. A command file is the usual way of doing it.

>> 4. Does TOPS-10 have any scrolly editors? Working with SOS line-by-line
>> makes everything take 3x as long.
> 
> The two I know of are AMIS and FINE ("FINE Is Not EMACS").  AMIS was on the
> KLAD pack, so that's what I used, except when I just used TECO (which I much
> prefer to SOS).

Yeah, SOS is not fun. AMIS is another Emacs clone, and a pretty decent 
one at that.

   Johnny

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TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-14 20:55 -0500
  Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-14 21:23 -0500
    Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-12-14 18:34 -0800
      Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-15 03:04 +0000
    Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-15 14:34 -0500
      Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-15 17:03 -0500
        Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-16 11:35 -0500
          Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-16 22:12 -0500
            Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-17 10:31 +0100
              Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-17 11:06 -0500
            Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-17 10:56 -0500
              Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-20 13:27 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2025-12-20 13:23 +0000
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-20 11:59 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-25 11:35 +0100
              Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 17:59 +0100
          Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-28 10:47 +0100
            Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-28 18:21 -0500
              Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 11:07 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-29 13:20 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-29 12:22 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 20:43 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:57 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-31 15:21 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:33 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-31 15:20 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 17:59 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-29 12:05 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 19:58 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-30 12:15 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-31 02:21 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:17 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2026-01-01 18:32 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-02 13:27 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:37 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-05 12:52 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2026-01-06 01:37 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-06 12:18 -0500

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