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| From | jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.sys.pdp10 |
| Subject | Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time |
| Date | 2025-12-16 11:35 -0500 |
| Organization | Atr2 RG 2025 |
| Message-ID | <87ike6mljt.fsf@atr2.ath.cx> (permalink) |
| References | <87jyyo4igj.fsf@atr2.ath.cx> <mddh5tscwkm.fsf@panix5.panix.com> <87wm2na6a8.fsf@atr2.ath.cx> <mdd5xa7v1w3.fsf@panix5.panix.com> |
Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
> 2025 - 28 = 1997
>
> Thus, to start your system today, give the date 15-Dec-1997.
>
> Beginning in 2028, subtract 56 from the current year.
Noted, although the tests from early spoofed 98, I'll use 97 hereafter.
Networking is working. I had to re-run mongen.mic. After some tweaking I
must've not re-run it. DECnet works, I stayed logged in from a VMS node
for hours yesterday, and today TOPS-20 logged in to TOPS-10 with
sethost. No LAT though, though it looks like it should work.
❰jayjwa❙~❱✔≻ llogin amatsu
@login (USER) jayjwa (PASSWORD)
Job 12 on TTY121 ATR2:/dev/pts/12(LAT) 16-Dec-2025 10:55:22
Last interactive login 16-Dec-2025 10:50:48
Last non-interactive login 15-Sep-2025 18:14:08
End of LOGIN.CMD.10
@sethost nergig
[Type ^Y to return to node AMATSU]
KL704 07:46:05 TTY44 system 1025
Connected to Node AMATSU
[Checking terminal type . . .
unknown]
Please LOGIN
.LOGIN
Job 3 KL704 TTY44
#100,100
Password:
[LGNLAS Last access to [100,100] succeeded on 15-Dec-98:18:28:28]
07:43 16-Dec-98 Wednesday
.DIR
WORK LOG 1 <057> 15-Dec-98 DSKB: [100,100]
.TYPE WORK.LOG
00100 I'm testing networking in 2025.
00200 This is very laggy but works, mostly.
.Day: :01:04 Run: 0.05 Rd:48 Wr:4 PIP 4+11P Ctx:1 ^C PC:400213
.kjob
❰jayjwa❙~❱✔≻ ncp tell nergig show exec char
Executor node = 1.15 (NERGIG),
Identification = DECnet-10 Version 4.0,
Management Version = 4.0.0, Loop count = 1, Loop length = 127,
Loop with = Mixed, Incoming timer = 30, Outgoing timer = 60,
ECL version = 4.0.0, Maximum links = 65535, Delay factor = 48,
Delay weight = 10, Inactivity timer = 120,
Retransmit factor = 10, Routing version = 2.0.0,
Type = Non-Routing IV, Routing timer = 600,
Broadcast routing timer = 40, Maximum address = 1023,
Maximum circuits = 20, Maximum cost = 100, Maximum hops = 16,
Maximum visits = 20, Max broadcast nonrouters = 64,
Max broadcast routers = 32, Maximum buffers = 80,
Buffer size = 576, Segment buffer size = 576
View from SYSANS:
Ethernet Status of KL704 16-Dec-98 07:48:58 UP:13:27:55
Chan/Kont State E-Net Address DgmXmt DgmRcv
ETH-0 Online AA-00-04-00-0F-04 0 0
NI-0 Online 00-00-02-C7-17-D0 0 0
Protocol State Kont User DgmXmt DgmRcv FQE
60-03 DECnet Online NI-0 System 4163 923 0
60-04 LAT Online NI-0 System 1616 0 0
90-00 Loopback Online NI-0 System 0 0 0
60-02 RmtCon Online NI-0 System 80 0 0
-Inf- Online Job 13 Ctx 1 0 0 0
60-01 DNA/MOP Online NI-0 Job 13 Ctx 1 0 0 0
-Inf- Online Job 2 Ctx 1 0 0 0
LAT's here but no one seems it see it.
LCP>
7:55:44 LCP -- Host Characteristics --
LAT Access State: ON
Host Name: NERGIG
Host id: KL704
Host number: 15
Retransmit Limit: 60
Retransmit Timer: 1000
Multicast Timer: 30
Groups: None defined
Current Maximum
------- -------
Allocated circuits 0 20
Active circuits 0 20
Sessions 0 32
Service name Rating Identification
------------ ------ ------------------------
NERGIG 1 KL704
LCP>
I'll probably rebuild the monitor to make it more beefy and change the
name to reflect the working networking post-2021. But while I'm here, a
couple quick questions I didn't find the answers to while looking
through all the .pdf at Bitsavers:
1. Should I delete user 100,100 (built-in, comes with system) and insert
my own, or just change the name? I know it's with REACT.
2. Any ideas what's going on with LAT? TOPS-10 is the only LAT-able
system that's not showing up.
3. What's the best method of entering node names into the DECnet
database? VMS has 'copy known nodes from whatever to both', and TOPS-20
has SETNOD. Linux has decnet.conf and Pydecnet has its own file. Right
now I'm entering them by hand with NCP> set node whatever name
whatever. There's got to be a better way. Should I make a NODES.CMD and
TAKE NODES.CMD in the startup files? Do they disappear on power-down?
4. Does TOPS-10 have any scrolly editors? Working with SOS line-by-line
makes everything take 3x as long.
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