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Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time

From jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.sys.pdp10
Subject Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time
Date 2025-12-17 11:06 -0500
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Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> writes:

> LAT certainly existed. Another sub-mode of OPR at least in
> TOPS-20. But there might be issues with Tops-10. I don't know enough
> about that.
Yup. 20 works out of the box. I'm actually logged in from Linux on
LAT. They are under the OPR, that you can 'enter' like NCP.

@enable
$opr
OPR>enter lcp
LCP>show char

10:37:27 [LCP]          -- Host Characteristics --

LAT Access State: ON
Host Name: AMATSU
Host id: AMATSU KLH, PANDA TOPS-20 Monitor 7.1(21733)-4
Host number: 19
Retransmit Limit: 60
Retransmit Timer: 1000
Multicast Timer: 30
Groups: 0

                     Current   Maximum
                     -------   -------
Allocated circuits       1        32
Active circuits          1        20
Sessions                 1         5

    Service Name       Rating        Identification
--------------------   ------   ------------------------
AMATSU                   1      AMATSU KLH, PANDA TOPS-20 Monitor 7.1(21733)-4
LCP>

Here's TOPS-10. Note the "groups" part: different from TOPS-20,
otherwise the rest is the same.

.r opr

OPR>enter lcp
LCP>show char
LCP>
 8:40:50        LCP     -- Host Characteristics --

LAT Access State: ON
Host Name: NERGIG
Host id: KL+NETMON-704
Host number: 15
Retransmit Limit: 60
Retransmit Timer: 1000
Multicast Timer: 30
Groups: 0:6

                     Current   Maximum
                     -------   -------
Allocated circuits       1        20
Active circuits          0        20
Sessions                 0        32

Service name   Rating        Identification
------------   ------   ------------------------
   NERGIG        1      KL+NETMON-704
LCP>

> Yeah. Nodes are not in any permanent database. You need to define them
> each time Tops-10 boots. A command file is the usual way of doing it.
Looks like 'take nodes.cmd' under NCP will do it. 

> Yeah, SOS is not fun. AMIS is another Emacs clone, and a pretty decent
> one at that.
Works like ITS Emacs, which I'm already familiar with. 

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TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-14 20:55 -0500
  Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-14 21:23 -0500
    Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-12-14 18:34 -0800
      Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-15 03:04 +0000
    Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-15 14:34 -0500
      Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-15 17:03 -0500
        Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-16 11:35 -0500
          Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-16 22:12 -0500
            Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-17 10:31 +0100
              Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-17 11:06 -0500
            Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-17 10:56 -0500
              Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-20 13:27 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2025-12-20 13:23 +0000
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-20 11:59 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-25 11:35 +0100
              Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 17:59 +0100
          Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-28 10:47 +0100
            Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-28 18:21 -0500
              Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 11:07 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-29 13:20 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-29 12:22 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 20:43 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:57 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-31 15:21 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:33 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-31 15:20 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 17:59 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-29 12:05 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-29 19:58 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-30 12:15 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2025-12-31 02:21 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:17 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2026-01-01 18:32 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-02 13:27 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:37 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-05 12:52 -0500
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2026-01-06 01:37 +0100
                Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-06 12:18 -0500

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