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| From | jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.sys.pdp10 |
| Subject | Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time |
| Date | 2026-01-06 12:18 -0500 |
| Organization | atr2net 2026 |
| Message-ID | <87h5sywtgy.fsf@atr2.ath.cx> (permalink) |
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"G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> writes:
> The problem is that there exist TWO distinct TOPS10.REL libraries, one
> for KL and one for KS processors. In a properly done installation they
> would be found in [10,7,MON,KL] and [10,7,MON,KS] respectively, and
> the correct one would be copied to REL: during the installation. I
> guess that a monitor linked with the wrong library could make
> fireworks quite easily... :P
There was no copy in REL: until yesterday, when I added it. Going by the
size, I almost certainly pulled the right copy since I know about KS/KL
from using ITS and T20 before that. I had a KS ITS briefly, but the KA
has more "stuff" (at least the public distro of it does).
> To check how many copies of TOPS10.REL you have lingering around do this:
>
> .DIR SSL:[*,*,*,*,*,*,*]TOPS10.REL (seven asterisks)
.DIR SSL:[*,*,*,*,*,*,*]TOPS10.REL
TOPS10 REL 3168 <055> 15-Dec-98 DSKB: [10,7,MON]
TOPS10 REL 3163 <055> 6-Oct-88 [10,7,MON,KL]
TOPS10 REL 2296 <055> 6-Oct-88 [10,7,MON,KS]
TOPS10 REL 3168 <055> 15-Dec-98 [5,11]
Total of 11795 blocks in 4 files
.
That last one is the REL: area.
> Then do the following to check the content of each copy, replace
> [p,pn] with the numbers you obtained from the DIR command above. If
> you omit TTY: it will create a TOPS10.LST in your current directory,
> or you could specify a name.
>
> .R MAKLIB
> *TTY:=[p,pn]TOPS10.REL/LIST
> Modules like CD2SER, LP2SER, PPSSER, and PRSSER are specific to KS
> processors. On the contrary, modules such as ETHSER, ETHUUO, KNISER,
> and MOSSER are only for KL ones.
There's too many to list, but from the REL: area copy which should be
the [10,7,mon] area one:
ETHSER 000012 000021
ETHUUO 000000 000021
KNISER 000000 000213
MOSSER 000000 000021
So I think KL, which matches the pdp10-kl binary/system.
> BTW, which subreddit? I didn't know there was one for these things :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/PDP10/
Right now, it's more active here.
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Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-05 12:52 -0500
Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time "G." <nan6328@iperbole.invalid> - 2026-01-06 01:37 +0100
Re: TOPS-10 networking in modern time jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-06 12:18 -0500
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