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Poor "Jim Pennino" :-)

Started byPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
First post2025-03-04 22:22 -0600
Last post2025-04-15 20:38 -0500
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  Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 22:22 -0600
    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-05 06:04 +0000
      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-03-10 03:05 +0000
    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-04 23:45 -0800
      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 06:09 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-05 11:11 -0800
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 15:39 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-05 13:36 -0800
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 17:35 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-06 04:57 +0000
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-06 09:06 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 15:18 -0800
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 13:54 -0600
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 16:01 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 16:05 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 20:58 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-17 09:11 +0200
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 13:43 -0500
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 16:31 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 16:52 -0500
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 17:58 -0500
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 19:36 -0500
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 10:24 -0500
                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 13:46 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 12:34 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 13:59 -0500
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 14:37 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 17:19 -0500
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 19:39 -0500
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 20:06 -0500
                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 20:34 -0500
                        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 20:39 -0500
                          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 22:11 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 19:17 -0500
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 13:56 -0500
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 16:34 -0500
                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 18:06 -0500
                        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-22 23:59 +0000
                        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 15:35 -0500
                          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 13:41 -0500
                            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 16:33 -0500
                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 23:38 -0500
                            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-04-26 07:43 +0200
                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-04-26 11:39 +0000
                                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-02 10:08 +0200
                                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-04 13:31 +0000
                                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-06 10:17 +0200
                                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-07 06:22 +0000
                                        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-07 09:52 +0200
                                          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-07 12:14 +0000
                                            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-08 08:40 +0200
                                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-08 07:40 +0000
                                            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-09 08:34 +0200
                                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-09 09:06 +0000
                                                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-10 09:07 +0200
                                                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-10 10:11 +0000
                                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 12:26 -0500
                                                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-10 09:14 +0200
                                          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-05-07 20:35 -0400
                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 08:58 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 19:18 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 20:08 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 21:13 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 10:47 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 12:11 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 13:45 -0500
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 18:46 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 18:55 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-30 11:57 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 12:13 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 14:06 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 15:45 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 17:31 -0500
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 18:54 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 19:25 -0500
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-02 01:55 +0000
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 13:43 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 19:30 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-03 18:47 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 16:37 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 18:14 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 19:57 -0500
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 23:56 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 12:15 -0500
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 12:34 -0500
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 20:07 -0500
                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-06 03:37 +0000
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 13:01 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 16:20 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 16:49 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-07 13:22 +0000
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 10:52 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 11:10 -0500
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-07 22:43 +0000
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 12:32 -0500
                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-05-09 05:09 +0000
                        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 12:09 -0500
                          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-10 02:39 +0000
                            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 22:37 -0500
                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-10 04:49 +0000
                                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 00:16 -0500
                                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-10 07:39 +0000
                                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 10:20 -0500
                                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-10 21:58 +0000
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-07 22:06 +0000
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 11:33 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 12:35 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 19:26 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 15:26 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 12:21 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 14:08 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 17:03 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 11:33 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 15:21 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 15:54 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-18 11:38 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-19 15:51 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-19 18:25 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-20 20:54 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 21:46 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 21:56 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:21 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-26 22:56 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-26 23:11 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 14:05 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-28 20:30 +0000
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 20:15 -0500
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-29 07:53 +0000
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 15:09 -0500
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-05-30 07:51 +0000
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 18:23 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-07 13:07 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-12 17:04 -0500
    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-09 14:30 -0500
      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 13:43 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-11 19:32 +0000
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-03-11 12:58 -0700
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-11 20:48 +0000
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-11 18:13 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 16:27 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 14:42 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 12:45 -0700
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 15:35 -0500
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 13:37 -0700
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-03-12 13:57 -0700
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 14:37 -0700
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 16:58 -0500
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 16:00 -0700
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-03-12 16:51 -0700
                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 17:04 -0700
                        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 21:46 -0500
                          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 21:55 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-03-12 15:03 -0700
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-13 00:58 +0000
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 14:52 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 13:22 -0700
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 15:53 -0500
      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-15 18:17 -0500
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-03-16 00:10 +0000
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-15 19:49 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-16 02:53 +0000
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-16 00:09 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-16 21:59 +0000
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-16 17:50 -0500
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-16 22:54 +0000
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-03-17 07:54 +0000
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 12:56 -0500
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-17 22:16 +0000
                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-03-18 13:00 +0000
        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 17:55 -0500
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-03-29 00:24 +0000
          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-30 13:24 -0500
            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-30 15:04 -0500
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-30 13:12 -0700
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 09:51 -0500
              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 11:39 -0500
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-04-01 23:48 +0000
                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-02 14:50 -0500
                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-02 14:54 -0500
                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-02 15:07 -0500
                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-02 15:32 -0500
                        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-02 21:38 -0500
                          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 00:09 -0500
                            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 14:30 -0500
                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 12:55 -0500
                                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 14:04 -0500
                                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 14:52 -0500
                                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:13 -0500
                                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 18:17 -0500
                                        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 18:41 -0500
                                          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 15:34 -0500
                                            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 23:15 -0500
                                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 23:29 -0500
                                                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 12:35 -0500
                                                  Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 16:09 -0500
                                                    Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 20:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 10:47 -0500
                                                        Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 13:09 -0500
                                                          Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 16:08 -0500
                                                            Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 17:29 -0500
                                                              Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 10:53 -0500
                                                                Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 20:38 -0500

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#892563

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-24 16:33 -0500
Message-ID<vuean5$euob$1@solani.org>
In reply to#892561


Scared shitless Israelis attempted to create a break between Iranians 
and Saudis during Saudi defense minister's visit to Iran a few days 
back. A popular TV program in Iran which has had a role in enhancing 
family values in Iran suddenly began broadcasting insulting material to 
Sonnis and Arabs and the Saudis!

7 Israeli agents who were employed by the channel have been arrested in 
this, and the head of the channel as well as the manager of that TV 
program lost their jobs after being found to have had nothing to do with 
the sabotage.

Same channel has been broadcasting various sorts of apologies since, for 
the incident. Saudis are silent. The plot seems to have been limited to 
the number of employees arrested. So the TV channel itself ("Sima") 
keeps living.

Israelis are sure desperate, but bad news for them is that their 
self-claimed superiority doesn't seem enough for them to do any damage 
to _Iranians_. I wonder why? :)

The reason should be the same as the one behind a well-known old Iranian 
saying,"You don't find a Jew in Bazaar of Tabriz."

When it comes to Iranians, they're simply not good enough.


Israelis assassinated a few Iranian nuclear scientists a some years 
back, and were stupid enough to feel great about it. You Americans can 
now sure see what Iranians have been doing to those same Israelis' asses 
since, and you can sure feel great about it :)

Hehe :-)

Iranians fooled Mossad since day one in the 1950s. You have no idea how 
much bullshit Iran pumped Eisenhower and Kennedy's admins via Mossad's 
asses, in return for news and stuff as good as gold from them.








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#892567

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-24 23:38 -0500
Message-ID<vuf3l3$f1pa$1@solani.org>
In reply to#892563
On 4/24/25 4:33 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Scared shitless Israelis attempted to create a break between Iranians 
> and Saudis during Saudi defense minister's visit to Iran a few days 
> back. A popular TV program in Iran which has had a role in enhancing 
> family values in Iran suddenly began broadcasting insulting material to 
> Sonnis and Arabs and the Saudis!
> 
> 7 Israeli agents who were employed by the channel have been arrested in 
> this, and the head of the channel as well as the manager of that TV 
> program lost their jobs after being found to have had nothing to do with 
> the sabotage.
> 
> Same channel has been broadcasting various sorts of apologies since, for 
> the incident. Saudis are silent. The plot seems to have been limited to 
> the number of employees arrested. So the TV channel itself ("Sima") 
> keeps living.
> 
> Israelis are sure desperate, but bad news for them is that their 
> self-claimed superiority doesn't seem enough for them to do any damage 
> to _Iranians_. I wonder why? :)
> 
> The reason should be the same as the one behind a well-known old Iranian 
> saying,"You don't find a Jew in Bazaar of Tabriz."
> 
> When it comes to Iranians, they're simply not good enough.
> 
> 
> Israelis assassinated a few Iranian nuclear scientists a some years 
> back, and were stupid enough to feel great about it. You Americans can 
> now sure see what Iranians have been doing to those same Israelis' asses 
> since, and you can sure feel great about it :)
> 
> Hehe :-)
> 
> Iranians fooled Mossad since day one in the 1950s. You have no idea how 
> much bullshit Iran pumped Eisenhower and Kennedy's admins via Mossad's 
> asses, in return for news and stuff as good as gold from them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Also this sudden meaningless attack in Kashmir by a known terrorist 
organization is highly suspect for being bankrolled and planned by 
Americans and Israelis, as both Pakestan and India are Iran's friends, 
and both have nukes in their arsenals.

26 "tourists" were methodically shot and killed in Keshmir by three 
terrorists.

There's something about it which the usual Israel-controlled news 
outlets including virtually all the American news outlets are silent about.

Modi threatened to punish "the backers" of the terrorists, so let's see 
how far this matter proceeds. So far, India is accusing Pakestan's 
government. Pakestan's government themselves are furious about it and 
are accusing Indians for it. Let me tell you why.

Non-Israeli-backed news outlets in Telegram say terrorists were heard by 
nearby people first asking each victim whether he was Moslem. Those who 
said "yes" got shot, but soon turned out not all but most of them were 
Hindus!.. So fearing death, they had lied to the terrorists to stay 
alive. So this has created cause for both India and Pakestan to revert 
to retaliation; i.e., exactly what Israelis want. Smells of it too.

I don't know how experienced (and equipped) Pakestanis or Indians are in 
finding the root cause of this type of events and catching the bastards 
behind it. Iran is experienced _and_ equipped for such operations, and 
could give them a hand!.. So if the culprit is Israel or USA, Iran can 
turn both India and Pakestan against them, creating the exact opposite 
effect that they sought.

American and Israeli intelligence communities have always had Iranian 
spies in them. Mostly double agents of course. This is for a reason, and 
is necessary for both sides. I don't know if India and Pakestan do 
though. Russians are also pretty good at this, so India or pakestan 
might resort to the terms of their recent agreements with Russia to have 
them find the truth of it for them.

Stuff as ugly as this (and ISIS, etc) always blows back at culprits' 
faces. How many times have we seen this.. Post-WWII history of USA 
itself is full of such gross ineptitude in thinking. Literally 
everything they did to other nations and countries!..

An accident? Can such a thing be an accident?.. To understand the 
reasons behind it read the blog I wrote here a couple of years back, 
explaining the differences between Modern Human and the cro-magnons.





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#892575

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-04-26 07:43 +0200
Message-ID<m73a29Fg9rU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#892561
Am Donnerstag000024, 24.04.2025 um 20:41 schrieb Physfitfreak:
> 
> 
> 
> Americans words are so unreliable that 3rd talk might be the last, as I 
> mentioned before.
> 
> So Iran is now testing Europeans' degree of servitude towards USA in the 
> light of recent tariff related development to see if in the absence of a 
> deal with USA they could have a deal with Europeans, Russia, and China. 
> Effectively replacing Americans with the Europeans.
> 
> Europeans haven't responded yet.

There are no 'Europeans'.

Europe is a huge continent, which is populated by a large number of 
people, which live in a large number of nations.

I, for instance, live in Germany.

Germans are a crude mixture of all sort of tribes, which left their 
offspring in the region now called 'Germany'.

A lot of these people had actually slavic roots, which are more or less 
more related to Polish or Russian people, while others stem from Romans 
and from kelts.

That's why there is no consensus, how to deal with geopolitical 
problems, like e.g. the Ukraine conflict.

But Germany is only one of a lot of countries, which all have their own 
interests, friends, demands and enemies.

To bring this into a single consensus is like herding a flock of flees.

That's why it takes some time.
...


TH

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#892576

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor)
Date2025-04-26 11:39 +0000
Message-ID<0c86d828a86f840131c1e5b60c18b4f0@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#892575
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 5:43:39 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Donnerstag000024, 24.04.2025 um 20:41 schrieb Physfitfreak:
>>
>>
>>
>> Americans words are so unreliable that 3rd talk might be the last, as I
>> mentioned before.
>>
>> So Iran is now testing Europeans' degree of servitude towards USA in the
>> light of recent tariff related development to see if in the absence of a
>> deal with USA they could have a deal with Europeans, Russia, and China.
>> Effectively replacing Americans with the Europeans.
>>
>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>
> There are no 'Europeans'.

Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
European.
>
> Europe is a huge continent, which is populated by a large number of
> people, which live in a large number of nations.
>
> I, for instance, live in Germany.

You are a German.
>
> Germans are a crude mixture of all sort of tribes, which left their
> offspring in the region now called 'Germany'.

So there are subsets of Germans.
>
> A lot of these people had actually slavic roots, which are more or less
> more related to Polish or Russian people, while others stem from Romans
> and from kelts.
>
> That's why there is no consensus, how to deal with geopolitical
> problems, like e.g. the Ukraine conflict.

I suppose democracy is there to sort out this sort of thing. Provided it
really works.
>
> But Germany is only one of a lot of countries, which all have their own
> interests, friends, demands and enemies.

Germany is a subset of Europe.
>
> To bring this into a single consensus is like herding a flock of flees.

Regret for lack of bigbossy Napoleon or Hitler, what.
>
> That's why it takes some time.

Problem with democracy.  Well known!

Superpolitics - as conceived by Arindam - with direct democracy
involving full voting by all legal entities, numbering in the hundreds
of millions, on online platforms on various isses, will solve decision
making comprehensively and efficiently. Perfectly possible now. 
Superpolitics involving databases and robots and computers will make all
poltiicans obsolete.

Woof woof woof woof

Bertietaylor (Arindam Banerjee's celestial cyberdoggies)
> ....
>
>
> TH

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#892634

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-02 10:08 +0200
Message-ID<m7jcqiFi06rU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#892576
Am Samstag000026, 26.04.2025 um 13:39 schrieb bertietaylor:
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 5:43:39 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Donnerstag000024, 24.04.2025 um 20:41 schrieb Physfitfreak:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Americans words are so unreliable that 3rd talk might be the last, as I
>>> mentioned before.
>>>
>>> So Iran is now testing Europeans' degree of servitude towards USA in the
>>> light of recent tariff related development to see if in the absence of a
>>> deal with USA they could have a deal with Europeans, Russia, and China.
>>> Effectively replacing Americans with the Europeans.
>>>
>>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>>
>> There are no 'Europeans'.
> 
> Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
> European.

No.
You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while actually 
use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.

But there is or were no tribe or people called 'Europeans'.

Europe is a huge continent and inhabited by tons of different tribes and 
nations.

'European' could therefore only be an attribute used for citizenship.

Since there exist a politician entity called 'European Union', it would 
be possible to call all citizens of all nations forming the EU 'Europeans'.

But that is, of course, not correct, because there are some countries in 
Europe, which do not belong to the EU.

So, 'European' could be used for people, who live in Europe at a certain 
time.

That would be slightly closer, but would differ in the set of people, 
who were born in Europe, but do not live there anymore.

So, all in all, 'European' cannot be defined properly, hence there does 
not exist any well defined set of people, you may rightfully call 
'Europeans'.



>>
>> Europe is a huge continent, which is populated by a large number of
>> people, which live in a large number of nations.
>>
>> I, for instance, live in Germany.
> 
> You are a German.

'German' is actually Latin and means something like 'man with a spear'.

The Romans called certain people 'Germanes' who didn't live in the 
region currently called Germany.

The people named 'Teutones' and 'Angeln' settled in current Denmark.

(Lower-) 'Saxons' settled in Germany, but also in other regions outside 
present Germany. But the current state of Saxony isn't the region where 
the ancient Saxons settled and the current Saxons are not related to the 
ancient Saxons.

Germans call themselves 'Deutsche', which in not related to a region or 
an ethnic group, but to the language 'Deutsch' (=German).

This language was widely spoken in many parts of Europe and was among 
the ancestors of Dutch and English, for instance.

Now German is spoken mainly in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.


TH

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#892665

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
Date2025-05-04 13:31 +0000
Message-ID<d6cc2fb698cc9b82820c68864cc39176@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#892634
On Fri, 2 May 2025 8:08:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Samstag000026, 26.04.2025 um 13:39 schrieb bertietaylor:
>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 5:43:39 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> Am Donnerstag000024, 24.04.2025 um 20:41 schrieb Physfitfreak:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Americans words are so unreliable that 3rd talk might be the last, as I
>>>> mentioned before.
>>>>
>>>> So Iran is now testing Europeans' degree of servitude towards USA in the
>>>> light of recent tariff related development to see if in the absence of a
>>>> deal with USA they could have a deal with Europeans, Russia, and China.
>>>> Effectively replacing Americans with the Europeans.
>>>>
>>>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>>>
>>> There are no 'Europeans'.
>>
>> Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
>> European.
>
> No.
> You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while actually
> use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.

We are tribal. Some are born to tribes and others get adopted. When
there is too much love causing mixing among tribes then there comes
castes, clans, bandits, loners, etc.
>
> But there is or were no tribe or people called 'Europeans'.

Many tribes were there in European forming a superset of tribes that is
called European. Much as snooty North and West Europeans may object such
is the third world perspective.
>
> Europe is a huge continent and inhabited by tons of different tribes and
> nations.

Yes.
>
> 'European' could therefore only be an attribute used for citizenship.

It relates to peoples and cultures relating to Europe.
>
> Since there exist a politician entity called 'European Union', it would
> be possible to call all citizens of all nations forming the EU
> 'Europeans'.
>
> But that is, of course, not correct, because there are some countries in
> Europe, which do not belong to the EU.

They choose to stay out to assert their nationality but from third world
pov they are also European.
>
> So, 'European' could be used for people, who live in Europe at a certain
> time.
>
> That would be slightly closer, but would differ in the set of people,
> who were born in Europe, but do not live there anymore.
>
> So, all in all, 'European' cannot be defined properly, hence there does
> not exist any well defined set of people, you may rightfully call
> 'Europeans'.
>
>
>
>>>
>>> Europe is a huge continent, which is populated by a large number of
>>> people, which live in a large number of nations.
>>>
>>> I, for instance, live in Germany.
>>
>> You are a German.
>
> 'German' is actually Latin and means something like 'man with a spear'.
>
> The Romans called certain people 'Germanes' who didn't live in the
> region currently called Germany.
>
> The people named 'Teutones' and 'Angeln' settled in current Denmark.
>
> (Lower-) 'Saxons' settled in Germany, but also in other regions outside
> present Germany. But the current state of Saxony isn't the region where
> the ancient Saxons settled and the current Saxons are not related to the
> ancient Saxons.
>
> Germans call themselves 'Deutsche', which in not related to a region or
> an ethnic group, but to the language 'Deutsch' (=German).
>
> This language was widely spoken in many parts of Europe and was among
> the ancestors of Dutch and English, for instance.
>
> Now German is spoken mainly in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.
>
>
> TH
>
> ....

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#892693

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-06 10:17 +0200
Message-ID<m7tuqcF8kinU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#892665
Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 15:31 schrieb Bertitaylor:
..

>>>>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>>>>
>>>> There are no 'Europeans'.
>>>
>>> Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
>>> European.
>>
>> No.
>> You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while actually
>> use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.
> 
> We are tribal. Some are born to tribes and others get adopted. When
> there is too much love causing mixing among tribes then there comes
> castes, clans, bandits, loners, etc.


Possibly you belong to a tribe, live in a tent and eat your enemies.

But I don't.

'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could possibly 
have.

>> But there is or were no tribe or people called 'Europeans'.
> 
> Many tribes were there in European forming a superset of tribes that is
> called European. Much as snooty North and West Europeans may object such
> is the third world perspective.
>>
>> Europe is a huge continent and inhabited by tons of different tribes and
>> nations.
> 
> Yes.
>>
>> 'European' could therefore only be an attribute used for citizenship.
> 
> It relates to peoples and cultures relating to Europe.

I'm not quite sure, what you are talking about.

Culture is actually something local.

E.g. the southern regions of Germany celebrates 'carneval' and do 
strange things in those day, which other 'tribes' of Germany don't 
understand.

But 'southern Germany' is actually a geographic cathegory and is in no 
way related to ethnic groups.

You can check that easily yourself, if you go to Collogne, for instance, 
at the day called 'Rosenmontag'.

There you find all sorts of ethnicities doing realy strange stuff, which 
could bring you into mental health facilities in most parts of the world.


>>
>> Since there exist a politician entity called 'European Union', it would
>> be possible to call all citizens of all nations forming the EU
>> 'Europeans'.
>>
>> But that is, of course, not correct, because there are some countries in
>> Europe, which do not belong to the EU.
> 
> They choose to stay out to assert their nationality but from third world
> pov they are also European.

Culture should be undestood as local and relational phenomenon.

For instance we had a specific culture in New York in the eighties. San 
Francisco had seen 'Hippies' in the sixties.

Also 'Hooliganism' in England is a local cultur and in no way related to 
ethnicity, even if tribes are involved.

But 'European' culture is pure nonsense, because Europe is way to large 
to be called 'local'.

There are tons of countries, ethnic groups, tribal and local cultures, 
languages, types of society and political systems in Europe.

Therefore there is no such thing as 'Europeans' or 'European tribalism'.


...


TH

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#892701

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
Date2025-05-07 06:22 +0000
Message-ID<b8d3d461b3ab255ae9321788b8bd6836@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#892693
On Tue, 6 May 2025 8:17:31 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 15:31 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> ...
>
>>>>>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no 'Europeans'.
>>>>
>>>> Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
>>>> European.
>>>
>>> No.
>>> You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while actually
>>> use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.
>>
>> We are tribal. Some are born to tribes and others get adopted. When
>> there is too much love causing mixing among tribes then there comes
>> castes, clans, bandits, loners, etc.
>
>
> Possibly you belong to a tribe, live in a tent and eat your enemies.

Wrong
>
> But I don't.

You gas your enemies en masse?


>
> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could possibly
> have.

None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
tribalism has been heavy.
>
>>> But there is or were no tribe or people called 'Europeans'.
>>
>> Many tribes were there in European forming a superset of tribes that is
>> called European. Much as snooty North and West Europeans may object such
>> is the third world perspective.
>>>
>>> Europe is a huge continent and inhabited by tons of different tribes and
>>> nations.
>>
>> Yes.
>>>
>>> 'European' could therefore only be an attribute used for citizenship.
>>
>> It relates to peoples and cultures relating to Europe.
>
> I'm not quite sure, what you are talking about.

Then you are thick.
>
> Culture is actually something local.

You are thick.
>
> E.g. the southern regions of Germany celebrates 'carneval' and do
> strange things in those day, which other 'tribes' of Germany don't
> understand.

Fatheaded response.

> But 'southern Germany' is actually a geographic cathegory and is in no
> way related to ethnic groups.

Racism, arrogance and bigotry are their main culture. Which transcends
local displays of so called culture.
>
> You can check that easily yourself, if you go to Collogne, for instance,
> at the day called 'Rosenmontag'.
>
> There you find all sorts of ethnicities doing realy strange stuff, which
> could bring you into mental health facilities in most parts of the
> world.
>
>
>>>
>>> Since there exist a politician entity called 'European Union', it would
>>> be possible to call all citizens of all nations forming the EU
>>> 'Europeans'.
>>>
>>> But that is, of course, not correct, because there are some countries in
>>> Europe, which do not belong to the EU.
>>
>> They choose to stay out to assert their nationality but from third world
>> pov they are also European.
>
> Culture should be undestood as local and relational phenomenon.

It has nothing to do with little peculiarities.
>
> For instance we had a specific culture in New York in the eighties. San
> Francisco had seen 'Hippies' in the sixties.
>
> Also 'Hooliganism' in England is a local cultur and in no way related to
> ethnicity, even if tribes are involved.

Just
>
> But 'European' culture is pure nonsense, because Europe is way to large
> to be called 'local'.
>
> There are tons of countries, ethnic groups, tribal and local cultures,
> languages, types of society and political systems in Europe.
>
> Therefore there is no such thing as 'Europeans' or 'European tribalism'.

There are arrogant racist and bigoted tribes with their own rather
predictable tribal affiliations everywhere, including Europe.

None more tribal than the European tribalist, for no other tribe has
made racism and bigotry as their key culture, taught in universities and
boosted by their leaders in their expansionist tribal goals.

WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof woof

Bertietaylor
>
>
> ....
>
>
> TH

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#892702

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-07 09:52 +0200
Message-ID<m80hnqFko8tU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#892701
Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 08:22 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> On Tue, 6 May 2025 8:17:31 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 15:31 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>> ...
>>
>>>>>>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no 'Europeans'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
>>>>> European.
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>> You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while 
>>>> actually
>>>> use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.
>>>
>>> We are tribal. Some are born to tribes and others get adopted. When
>>> there is too much love causing mixing among tribes then there comes
>>> castes, clans, bandits, loners, etc.
>>
>>
>> Possibly you belong to a tribe, live in a tent and eat your enemies.
> 
> Wrong
>>
>> But I don't.
> 
> You gas your enemies en masse?
NO, I have never gassed anybody.

> 
> 
>>
>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could possibly
>> have.
> 
> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
> tribalism has been heavy.


Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.

But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?

There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.

E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.

But those times are gone now and we have all sorts of influences all 
over the place.

Sure, some have long hair or a scooter like from 'Quadrophenia'.

But that is just something fashionbable and does not define tribes.

Some sort of tribalism is still existing in 'Hooliganism' or in criminal 
gangs.

But more or less these are very few examples of relatively small groups.


...

TH

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#892703

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
Date2025-05-07 12:14 +0000
Message-ID<b2945a1a51d05407d4f7ebdd57925a4a@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#892702
On Wed, 7 May 2025 7:52:42 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 08:22 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>> On Tue, 6 May 2025 8:17:31 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 15:31 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>>>>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no 'Europeans'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
>>>>>> European.
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>> You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while
>>>>> actually
>>>>> use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.
>>>>
>>>> We are tribal. Some are born to tribes and others get adopted. When
>>>> there is too much love causing mixing among tribes then there comes
>>>> castes, clans, bandits, loners, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Possibly you belong to a tribe, live in a tent and eat your enemies.
>>
>> Wrong
>>>
>>> But I don't.
>>
>> You gas your enemies en masse?
> NO, I have never gassed anybody.

Good.
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could possibly
>>> have.
>>
>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>> tribalism has been heavy.
>
>
> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.

They still are.
>
> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?

A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
superiority.
>
> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>
> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.

Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
of tribe.
>
> But those times are gone now and we have all sorts of influences all
> over the place.
>
> Sure, some have long hair or a scooter like from 'Quadrophenia'.
>
> But that is just something fashionbable and does not define tribes.
>
> Some sort of tribalism is still existing in 'Hooliganism' or in criminal
> gangs.
>
> But more or less these are very few examples of relatively small groups.
>
>
> ....
>
> TH

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#892715

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-08 08:40 +0200
Message-ID<m831sqF2lavU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#892703
Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> On Wed, 7 May 2025 7:52:42 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 08:22 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>> On Tue, 6 May 2025 8:17:31 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 15:31 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are no 'Europeans'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
>>>>>>> European.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>> You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are tribal. Some are born to tribes and others get adopted. When
>>>>> there is too much love causing mixing among tribes then there comes
>>>>> castes, clans, bandits, loners, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Possibly you belong to a tribe, live in a tent and eat your enemies.
>>>
>>> Wrong
>>>>
>>>> But I don't.
>>>
>>> You gas your enemies en masse?
>> NO, I have never gassed anybody.
> 
> Good.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could 
>>>> possibly
>>>> have.
>>>
>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>> tribalism has been heavy.
>>
>>
>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
> 
> They still are.

Aparently you regard yourself as a tribe member.

Does your tribe have a name?

And would you mind telling us this name?

...

TH

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#892716

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
Date2025-05-08 07:40 +0000
Message-ID<534c25f4241c5c0490b1c86e08ac9088@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#892715
On Thu, 8 May 2025 6:40:44 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>> On Wed, 7 May 2025 7:52:42 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 08:22 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>>> On Tue, 6 May 2025 8:17:31 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 15:31 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are no 'Europeans'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
>>>>>>>> European.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>> You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are tribal. Some are born to tribes and others get adopted. When
>>>>>> there is too much love causing mixing among tribes then there comes
>>>>>> castes, clans, bandits, loners, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly you belong to a tribe, live in a tent and eat your enemies.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong
>>>>>
>>>>> But I don't.
>>>>
>>>> You gas your enemies en masse?
>>> NO, I have never gassed anybody.
>>
>> Good.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could
>>>>> possibly
>>>>> have.
>>>>
>>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
>>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
>>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>>> tribalism has been heavy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
>>
>> They still are.
>
> Aparently you regard yourself as a tribe member.

Yes, of pack led by Arindam.
>
> Does your tribe have a name?

Depends on context, for Arindam. Basically for social and political
purposes Bengali tribal affiliated with Indian and Australian tribes.
Then professionally in the engineering tribe.
>
> And would you mind telling us this name?

Bihari-Bengali-Soviet-Catholic-British-Indian-Audtralian... And many
other tribal influences for Arindam. Makes him the greatest genius of
all time and sole god among lotsa devils.

WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)
>
> ....
>
> TH

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#892720

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-09 08:34 +0200
Message-ID<m85ltsFf93lU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#892703
Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could 
>>>> possibly
>>>> have.
>>>
>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>> tribalism has been heavy.

The inventor of 'scientific racism' was actually Charles Darwin and that 
an Englishman.

>>
>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
> 
> They still are.
>>
>> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?
> 
> A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
> superiority.
>>
>> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>>
>> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.
> 
> Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
> big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
> of tribe.

No

At least I don't like this interpretation of the word 'nation'.

It is in common use in anglo-american media, however, but still wrong.

E.g. they call Apaches (for instance) 'first nation'.

That is racism and tribalism and by no means acceptable.


Therefore 'nation' is another name for an independent state.

To create a 'superset of tribes' as 'nation' and to identify this with 
the population of a country is simply unacceptable.

In case of Germany this is also totally wrong, because the Germanic 
tribes were mainly not living in the area which is today occupied by 
Germany.


TH

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#892721

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
Date2025-05-09 09:06 +0000
Message-ID<2634bbfe78492482787b6d4c1e115ecb@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#892720
On Fri, 9 May 2025 6:34:56 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> ..
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could
>>>>> possibly
>>>>> have.
>>>>
>>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
>>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
>>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>>> tribalism has been heavy.
>
> The inventor of 'scientific racism' was actually Charles Darwin and that
> an Englishman.
>
>>>
>>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
>>
>> They still are.
>>>
>>> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?
>>
>> A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
>> superiority.
>>>
>>> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>>>
>>> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.
>>
>> Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
>> big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
>> of tribe.
>
> No
>
> At least I don't like this interpretation of the word 'nation'.

Subjective.
>
> It is in common use in anglo-american media, however, but still wrong.

For you.
>
> E.g. they call Apaches (for instance) 'first nation'.

Because there were no other tribes in their areas.
>
> That is racism and tribalism and by no means acceptable.

Nothing racist about it. Racism is saying my tribe is better because of
...
>
>
> Therefore 'nation' is another name for an independent state.

An independent state could have a number of nations or tribes within it.
>
> To create a 'superset of tribes' as 'nation' and to identify this with
> the population of a country is simply unacceptable.

Subjective petulance noted.
>
> In case of Germany this is also totally wrong, because the Germanic
> tribes were mainly not living in the area which is today occupied by
> Germany.

Now those people who call themselves German form a superset of tribes
that have speaking German as a binding factor.

WOOF woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

Bertietaylor
>
>
> TH

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#892736

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-10 09:07 +0200
Message-ID<m88c6aFsf8kU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#892721
Am Freitag000009, 09.05.2025 um 11:06 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> On Fri, 9 May 2025 6:34:56 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>> ..
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could
>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>> have.
>>>>>
>>>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European 
>>>>> tribes
>>>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories 
>>>>> and
>>>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>>>> tribalism has been heavy.
>>
>> The inventor of 'scientific racism' was actually Charles Darwin and that
>> an Englishman.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
>>>
>>> They still are.
>>>>
>>>> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?
>>>
>>> A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
>>> superiority.
>>>>
>>>> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.
>>>
>>> Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
>>> big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
>>> of tribe.
>>
>> No
>>
>> At least I don't like this interpretation of the word 'nation'.
> 
> Subjective.
>>
>> It is in common use in anglo-american media, however, but still wrong.
> 
> For you.
>>
>> E.g. they call Apaches (for instance) 'first nation'.
> 
> Because there were no other tribes in their areas.
>>
>> That is racism and tribalism and by no means acceptable.
> 
> Nothing racist about it. Racism is saying my tribe is better because of
> ...
>>
>>
>> Therefore 'nation' is another name for an independent state.
> 
> An independent state could have a number of nations or tribes within it.


In Germany the smaller entities are called 'states' and the larger 
entity ('Germany') 'nation'.

And neither states nor the nation are composed from tribes.

Tribalism is a very odd concept in a modern society!

Possibly there were tribes in existence several hundred or thousand 
years ago.

But today we have nothing like that anymore in modern countries like 
e.g. Germany.

In Papua New Guinea this might be different or possibly in the Amazonas 
area.

But tribes in a modern city would be really strange.



>> To create a 'superset of tribes' as 'nation' and to identify this with
>> the population of a country is simply unacceptable.
> 
> Subjective petulance noted.
>>
>> In case of Germany this is also totally wrong, because the Germanic
>> tribes were mainly not living in the area which is today occupied by
>> Germany.
> 
> Now those people who call themselves German form a superset of tribes
> that have speaking German as a binding factor.

Sure, language is a 'bindig factor'.

But language does not follow ethnicity, because people speak what people 
speak in their environment.

So: if you were born in Germany, you would speak German (at least 
somehow), because you certainly like to communicate with the people 
around you.

So kids learn the language of their country, whether they are brown, 
yellow or pink.

TH
> -- 

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#892739

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
Date2025-05-10 10:11 +0000
Message-ID<fea2e6fabfc30ef1bbcacb90666f50f9@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#892721
On Fri, 9 May 2025 9:06:41 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

> On Fri, 9 May 2025 6:34:56 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>> ..
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could
>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>> have.
>>>>>
>>>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
>>>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
>>>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>>>> tribalism has been heavy.
>>
>> The inventor of 'scientific racism' was actually Charles Darwin and that
>> an Englishman.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
>>>
>>> They still are.
>>>>
>>>> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?
>>>
>>> A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
>>> superiority.

Atavistic TRAITS and values, above

One such trait for Europeans was getting so dazzled by the colour of
their backsides that they considered all others without such colour to
be inferior.




>>>>
>>>> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.
>>>
>>> Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
>>> big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
>>> of tribe.
>>
>> No
>>
>> At least I don't like this interpretation of the word 'nation'.
>
> Subjective.
>>
>> It is in common use in anglo-american media, however, but still wrong.
>
> For you.
>>
>> E.g. they call Apaches (for instance) 'first nation'.
>
> Because there were no other tribes in their areas.
>>
>> That is racism and tribalism and by no means acceptable.
>
> Nothing racist about it. Racism is saying my tribe is better because of
> ....
>>
>>
>> Therefore 'nation' is another name for an independent state.
>
> An independent state could have a number of nations or tribes within it.
>>
>> To create a 'superset of tribes' as 'nation' and to identify this with
>> the population of a country is simply unacceptable.
>
> Subjective petulance noted.
>>
>> In case of Germany this is also totally wrong, because the Germanic
>> tribes were mainly not living in the area which is today occupied by
>> Germany.
>
> Now those people who call themselves German form a superset of tribes
> that have speaking German as a binding factor.
>
> WOOF woof-woof woof woof woof-woof
>
> Bertietaylor
>>
>>
>> TH
>
> --

--

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#892723

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-09 12:26 -0500
Message-ID<vvldt2$egak$2@solani.org>
In reply to#892720
On 5/9/25 1:34 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> .
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could 
>>>>> possibly
>>>>> have.
>>>>
>>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European 
>>>> tribes
>>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
>>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>>> tribalism has been heavy.
> 
> The inventor of 'scientific racism' was actually Charles Darwin and that 
> an Englishman.
> 
>>>
>>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
>>
>> They still are.
>>>
>>> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?
>>
>> A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
>> superiority.
>>>
>>> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>>>
>>> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.
>>
>> Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
>> big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
>> of tribe.
> 
> No
> 
> At least I don't like this interpretation of the word 'nation'.
> 
> It is in common use in anglo-american media, however, but still wrong.
> 
> E.g. they call Apaches (for instance) 'first nation'.
> 
> That is racism and tribalism and by no means acceptable.
> 
> 
> Therefore 'nation' is another name for an independent state.
> 
> To create a 'superset of tribes' as 'nation' and to identify this with 
> the population of a country is simply unacceptable.
> 
> In case of Germany this is also totally wrong, because the Germanic 
> tribes were mainly not living in the area which is today occupied by 
> Germany.
> 
> 
> TH



Oh, now you go for changing the meaning of English terms to escape your 
ass.

You and that Richard Hachel, I think, are the same person. You two smell 
of the same shit.

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#892737

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-05-10 09:14 +0200
Message-ID<m88ck8Fsf8kU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#892723
Am Freitag000009, 09.05.2025 um 19:26 schrieb Physfitfreak:
> On 5/9/25 1:34 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could 
>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>> have.
>>>>>
>>>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European 
>>>>> tribes
>>>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories 
>>>>> and
>>>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>>>> tribalism has been heavy.
>>
>> The inventor of 'scientific racism' was actually Charles Darwin and 
>> that an Englishman.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
>>>
>>> They still are.
>>>>
>>>> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?
>>>
>>> A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
>>> superiority.
>>>>
>>>> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.
>>>
>>> Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
>>> big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
>>> of tribe.
>>
>> No
>>
>> At least I don't like this interpretation of the word 'nation'.
>>
>> It is in common use in anglo-american media, however, but still wrong.
>>
>> E.g. they call Apaches (for instance) 'first nation'.
>>
>> That is racism and tribalism and by no means acceptable.
>>
>>
>> Therefore 'nation' is another name for an independent state.
>>
>> To create a 'superset of tribes' as 'nation' and to identify this with 
>> the population of a country is simply unacceptable.
>>
>> In case of Germany this is also totally wrong, because the Germanic 
>> tribes were mainly not living in the area which is today occupied by 
>> Germany.
>>
>>
>> TH
> 
> 
> 
> Oh, now you go for changing the meaning of English terms to escape your 
> ass.

No.

Actually we have the word 'Nation' in German, too, but with a different 
meaning.

This is a common problem, because often words sound similar in other 
languages, even if their meaning is different.

This problem has the name 'false friend'.

Now 'nation' does not refer to tribes in German but to countries.

Actually tribes are not a concept in modern societies. In anthropology 
they research tribes, of course. But modern societies do not know 
anything like that.

(Actually some subcultures like hooligans or 'bikers' use tribalism for 
entertainment purposes.

But that is more like a fashion in some subcultures.)


TH

..

TH

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#892714

FromJohnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz>
Date2025-05-07 20:35 -0400
Message-ID<xxxxxx-F80084.20355207052025@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#892702
In article <m80hnqFko8tU6@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Sure, some have long hair or a scooter like from 'Quadrophenia'.

Can you see the Real Me?

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#892592

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-27 08:58 -0500
Message-ID<vuld5t$icvo$1@solani.org>
In reply to#892575
On 4/26/25 12:43 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> That's why there is no consensus,



I don't think so. Things aren't that simple.

Iran's willingness to replace Americans with Europeans in this "nuclear" 
talks was a matter of stronger restrictions on you Europeans, than on 
the Americans. You Europeans can, under the circumstances that exist 
today, to some extent be forced to keep your words. Nothing can make 
Americans keep theirs. They're exactly as good as what they are, the 
"Great Satan".

Araghchi probed the option and the absence of response showed Europeans 
are still servile lackeys of the Americans. In present times, I believe 
THAT's the Europeans' identity, not what you described.

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