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Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-)

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
Subject Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-)
Date 2025-05-06 10:17 +0200
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Am Sonntag000004, 04.05.2025 um 15:31 schrieb Bertitaylor:
..

>>>>> Europeans haven't responded yet.
>>>>
>>>> There are no 'Europeans'.
>>>
>>> Let us say if you are born or live permanently in Europe, you are an
>>> European.
>>
>> No.
>> You were talking about ethnic relations with 'Europeans', while actually
>> use geography to categorize people into 'tribes'.
> 
> We are tribal. Some are born to tribes and others get adopted. When
> there is too much love causing mixing among tribes then there comes
> castes, clans, bandits, loners, etc.


Possibly you belong to a tribe, live in a tent and eat your enemies.

But I don't.

'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could possibly 
have.

>> But there is or were no tribe or people called 'Europeans'.
> 
> Many tribes were there in European forming a superset of tribes that is
> called European. Much as snooty North and West Europeans may object such
> is the third world perspective.
>>
>> Europe is a huge continent and inhabited by tons of different tribes and
>> nations.
> 
> Yes.
>>
>> 'European' could therefore only be an attribute used for citizenship.
> 
> It relates to peoples and cultures relating to Europe.

I'm not quite sure, what you are talking about.

Culture is actually something local.

E.g. the southern regions of Germany celebrates 'carneval' and do 
strange things in those day, which other 'tribes' of Germany don't 
understand.

But 'southern Germany' is actually a geographic cathegory and is in no 
way related to ethnic groups.

You can check that easily yourself, if you go to Collogne, for instance, 
at the day called 'Rosenmontag'.

There you find all sorts of ethnicities doing realy strange stuff, which 
could bring you into mental health facilities in most parts of the world.


>>
>> Since there exist a politician entity called 'European Union', it would
>> be possible to call all citizens of all nations forming the EU
>> 'Europeans'.
>>
>> But that is, of course, not correct, because there are some countries in
>> Europe, which do not belong to the EU.
> 
> They choose to stay out to assert their nationality but from third world
> pov they are also European.

Culture should be undestood as local and relational phenomenon.

For instance we had a specific culture in New York in the eighties. San 
Francisco had seen 'Hippies' in the sixties.

Also 'Hooliganism' in England is a local cultur and in no way related to 
ethnicity, even if tribes are involved.

But 'European' culture is pure nonsense, because Europe is way to large 
to be called 'local'.

There are tons of countries, ethnic groups, tribal and local cultures, 
languages, types of society and political systems in Europe.

Therefore there is no such thing as 'Europeans' or 'European tribalism'.


...


TH

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