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| Started by | john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> |
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| First post | 2026-02-11 07:44 -0800 |
| Last post | 2026-03-18 04:37 +1100 |
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Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-11 07:44 -0800
Re: energy and mass liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-11 18:47 +0000
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-11 23:09 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-13 09:50 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-13 07:23 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 03:51 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-13 09:52 -0800
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-13 18:06 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-13 10:17 -0800
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-13 10:56 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 23:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 23:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Brody Baikov <aav@booayoki.ru> - 2026-02-13 23:16 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 06:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 23:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-13 21:03 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 22:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-14 08:06 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-15 05:07 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-14 11:02 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-02-14 11:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-14 11:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-14 22:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-15 09:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-15 08:23 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-15 13:19 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-17 10:29 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-15 22:30 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-18 16:22 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-18 22:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-02-19 00:25 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-19 22:03 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 08:03 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 05:10 +1100
Re: energy and mass Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-02-19 21:04 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 18:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-02-20 01:04 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 23:00 +1100
Re: energy and mass Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-02-20 22:06 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 22:48 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-19 12:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-20 08:23 +0100
Re: energy and mass Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2026-02-20 01:16 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-22 10:38 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-14 04:17 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-14 04:29 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-14 04:35 -0800
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-14 08:10 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-15 05:39 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-17 09:53 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-17 12:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-17 09:29 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-17 18:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-17 10:37 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-18 15:35 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-18 10:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 10:57 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-18 20:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 12:32 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 11:06 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 11:13 -0800
Re: energy and mass Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-02-18 20:43 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 12:49 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 12:54 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 12:57 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-19 21:06 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 08:08 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 08:22 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 05:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 10:25 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 18:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-20 10:56 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 14:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-21 11:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 22:54 +1100
Re: energy and mass "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-02-20 14:16 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 11:56 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-19 21:02 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-19 20:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-19 11:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-19 23:39 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-19 14:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 02:47 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-19 21:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 18:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-20 11:35 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 23:09 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-20 13:30 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 03:20 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-20 11:35 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 03:43 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 11:37 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 15:09 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-20 21:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 15:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-21 11:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 23:12 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-21 14:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 05:59 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 17:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-22 14:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 02:25 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 11:01 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-22 23:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Edwin Lohmatikov <iiw@aoo.ru> - 2026-02-20 22:14 +0000
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-21 11:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Zamir Nasibullaev <rniz@zzrlus.ru> - 2026-02-21 18:53 +0000
Shitting and pissing your own pants again? [A noiseless patient Spider] (Re: energy and mass) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-02-21 20:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-19 08:54 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 18:32 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-20 08:46 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 15:39 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 21:31 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 23:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 05:06 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 15:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 23:18 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 20:20 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 03:11 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 03:24 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 02:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 10:30 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 11:15 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 17:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 17:01 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 22:38 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 23:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 21:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 22:24 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 18:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 12:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-25 00:15 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 15:15 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-25 02:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 20:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-25 16:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-25 11:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 08:33 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 12:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 08:46 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 09:26 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 21:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 22:30 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 12:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 09:02 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 20:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-25 16:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-25 11:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 08:35 -0800
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-25 10:01 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-26 13:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-26 16:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-26 11:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-02-26 11:29 +0100
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-02-26 12:32 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-26 13:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-02-26 18:33 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-26 21:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass Domingo Totolos <itot@go.gr> - 2026-02-26 21:01 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 06:05 -0800
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-02-26 15:32 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 06:41 -0800
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-02-26 18:11 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 10:40 -0800
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-02-26 20:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 11:52 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-28 10:14 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-01 00:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-01 10:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-01 20:40 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-03 09:53 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-03 23:14 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-05 11:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-06 01:43 +1100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-05 16:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 08:48 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-05 22:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 18:20 -0800
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-06 11:01 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-07 16:48 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 21:56 -0800
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-07 04:16 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-08 00:31 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 07:08 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-08 00:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 08:42 -0800
Re: energy and mass "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-03-05 18:48 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-05 12:32 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-06 05:57 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-08 09:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-09 01:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-10 09:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 08:56 -0700
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-10 09:13 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 09:21 -0700
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-10 20:04 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-10 12:51 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 12:55 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 15:00 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 14:53 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-11 10:01 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-11 07:54 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 18:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-11 20:19 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 17:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-12 07:59 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 16:41 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-13 08:10 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 16:53 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 11:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-12 10:18 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 21:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 16:48 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-13 08:18 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:03 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 17:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 11:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 02:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 21:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 16:55 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-13 07:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 01:47 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-13 20:01 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:13 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 07:50 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 01:18 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 20:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 15:40 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-15 08:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 20:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-15 10:33 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 23:36 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-15 14:50 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 09:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 02:24 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 09:55 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 02:02 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-15 10:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 20:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-16 20:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-19 10:38 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 23:18 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-20 10:36 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 00:06 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-21 10:06 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-21 07:31 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 09:35 -0700
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-21 10:17 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 11:13 -0700
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-21 14:15 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-22 09:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 20:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-22 11:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-22 07:45 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 02:18 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-22 19:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-22 11:44 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 04:32 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 11:22 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-21 22:32 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 04:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-21 10:44 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 15:54 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 10:15 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 22:45 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-26 13:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-27 01:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-26 08:08 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-27 17:16 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 06:16 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 08:12 -0700
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-11 08:24 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 17:43 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 09:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 02:33 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 10:00 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 08:40 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 09:16 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 04:20 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 10:37 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 15:32 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 23:23 -0700
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-11 13:15 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 08:27 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:05 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:12 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:20 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:30 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 19:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 15:49 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 06:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 18:09 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 09:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 21:22 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 13:14 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 02:57 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 23:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 16:34 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 14:16 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 14:31 +0100
Re: energy and mass Isais Kitamura <riiisia@imi.jp> - 2026-03-12 16:37 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 07:17 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 07:33 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 07:52 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 11:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 10:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 02:46 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 08:57 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 10:09 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 03:01 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-10 21:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 19:18 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 15:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 11:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-11 09:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-03-11 10:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 00:07 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-12 10:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 10:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 22:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 12:42 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 03:14 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 10:10 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-13 10:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 02:57 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 09:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-13 20:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 07:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 02:10 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 20:44 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 15:46 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-15 09:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 20:56 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:03 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 02:30 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-15 09:38 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 06:19 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 10:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 11:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 09:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 21:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 14:16 +0100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-12 15:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 07:55 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 08:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 17:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-13 11:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 08:28 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 08:31 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 09:07 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 09:08 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:58 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:12 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:17 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:05 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 02:43 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 09:10 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 09:25 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 09:32 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 04:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 17:00 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 06:22 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 02:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 17:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 07:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 02:57 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 21:01 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 15:49 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-15 08:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 21:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-15 11:18 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-16 13:58 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-16 07:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-16 21:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-16 11:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 05:30 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 01:21 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-16 15:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 17:11 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 08:07 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 22:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 08:07 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 05:22 -0700
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-14 12:00 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 08:24 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 08:26 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 03:10 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 09:19 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-14 21:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 16:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 21:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 10:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 03:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 10:15 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 03:18 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-15 21:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-15 23:04 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-16 14:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-16 07:50 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-16 21:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-16 11:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 01:35 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-16 15:55 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 17:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 08:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 22:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 13:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 02:36 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 17:18 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 05:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 20:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 17:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 08:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 20:39 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 11:07 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 00:41 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 15:09 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 14:18 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 21:00 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 07:29 +0100
That stupid piece of shit Bill Sloman is admitting it is lying Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 11:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-18 14:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Limuel Patselas <teuu@lss.gr> - 2026-03-18 14:03 +0000
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 15:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass Oval Kasprzak <saaavv@zzssl.pl> - 2026-03-18 14:18 +0000
Re: energy and mass Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-03-18 15:13 +0000
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 17:53 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 09:57 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 18:59 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 11:17 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 20:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-20 14:01 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-20 13:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-20 14:36 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-20 16:15 +0100
Re: energy and mass Kayce Hatakeda <aedkya@aaktey.jp> - 2026-03-20 15:51 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-21 17:07 +0100
Re: energy and mass Rhyan Taverna <aah@vreyt.it> - 2026-03-21 18:34 +0000
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-22 14:10 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-22 14:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-24 12:27 +0100
GPS (was: energy and mass) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-24 14:20 +0100
Re: GPS (was: energy and mass) Logan Baturin <ngggg@rainag.ru> - 2026-03-24 13:30 +0000
Re: GPS Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 17:01 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 16:36 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-25 11:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-25 12:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-25 14:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 07:24 -0700
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-26 14:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 06:44 -0700
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-26 21:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 17:53 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 10:55 -0700
GPS (was: energy and mass) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-27 00:21 +0100
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-27 06:18 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-25 15:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-26 14:38 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-26 16:13 +0100
Time (was: energy and mass) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-25 16:06 +0100
Re: Time Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 08:22 -0700
Re: Time Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 08:30 -0700
Re: Time Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-25 17:34 +0100
Re: Time Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-25 17:33 +0100
Re: Time Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-25 17:35 +0100
Curvature of spacetime (was: Time) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-26 03:38 +0100
Re: Curvature of spacetime (was: Time) Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-03-26 04:11 +0000
Re: Curvature of spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 21:22 -0700
Re: Curvature of spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 06:06 -0700
Re: Curvature of spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 06:31 -0700
Re: Curvature of spacetime Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 10:32 -0700
Re: Curvature of spacetime Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-26 07:33 +0100
Re: Curvature of spacetime (was: Time) Jakob Winogrodzki <ooii@krdko.pl> - 2026-03-26 21:17 +0000
Re: energy and mass Rion Mahaev <ahom@amme.ru> - 2026-03-20 13:28 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-21 01:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Yeiniel Katsumata <kna@tuiktyay.jp> - 2026-03-21 18:39 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 07:53 -0700
Re: energy and mass Simei Mahrov <iie@irovoea.ru> - 2026-03-18 19:57 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 21:38 -0700
Re: energy and mass Dwane Sakakibara <kaaad@aaa.jp> - 2026-03-19 20:26 +0000
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-16 16:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-16 16:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 17:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 08:17 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 22:47 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 14:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 03:06 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 17:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 06:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 20:36 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 15:12 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 08:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 20:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 11:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 00:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 14:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 01:20 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 15:33 +0100
Re: energy and mass Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-03-18 15:19 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 08:29 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-18 17:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 14:35 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 11:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-03-19 12:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 13:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-20 16:51 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-20 06:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-20 18:35 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-20 10:00 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 00:49 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-20 16:25 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 15:13 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 06:23 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 18:00 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 09:55 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 02:40 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 17:00 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 05:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 19:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-21 14:21 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 22:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 16:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-22 06:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-22 08:03 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 02:40 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-22 10:27 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-22 10:43 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 19:21 -0700
Re: energy and mass (Double Relativity Theory) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-22 03:06 -0700
Re: energy and mass (Double Relativity Theory) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-22 03:36 -0700
Re: energy and mass (Double Relativity Theory) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-22 10:15 -0700
Re: energy and mass (Double Relativity Theory) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-22 10:26 -0700
Re: energy and mass (Double Relativity Theory) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 09:45 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 16:20 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-22 10:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-23 13:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 08:01 -0700
Re: energy and mass Keeton Zdunowski <ni@eudei.pl> - 2026-03-23 17:19 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 16:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-22 06:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 21:03 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-22 11:15 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 02:47 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-22 20:35 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 15:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-23 07:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 21:15 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-23 13:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 23:16 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-23 16:01 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 17:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 07:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 19:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 09:27 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-24 13:36 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 16:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 04:28 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 18:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 03:07 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 17:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 04:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 10:53 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 05:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 19:54 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 13:06 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 13:53 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 23:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 20:55 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-25 07:25 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 19:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 08:06 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-23 20:11 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 19:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 07:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 22:31 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 05:33 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 03:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 16:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 04:21 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 05:31 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 16:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 04:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 18:32 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 17:51 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 17:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 05:37 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 03:39 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 11:32 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 01:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 22:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 15:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-19 13:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 06:00 -0700
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-17 17:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 14:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 07:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 18:01 +1100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-19 11:17 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 08:08 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 03:13 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 11:00 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 11:20 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-16 22:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 17:32 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-17 10:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 22:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-19 10:42 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 13:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-13 22:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 00:06 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 11:51 +0100
Re: energy and mass Larry Gulyás <ylcl@alyl.hu> - 2026-03-12 12:36 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 09:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-13 15:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 09:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 03:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 21:06 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-17 08:42 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 23:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-19 11:32 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-20 00:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 14:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-20 10:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-20 04:21 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-21 09:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 10:32 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-25 09:10 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 21:31 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-26 14:33 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-27 02:03 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 09:33 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 09:49 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 10:26 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-27 09:25 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-28 16:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-29 10:24 +0200
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-29 20:55 +1100
Re: energy and mass Flavio Schuhart <ifuaofvs@thl.de> - 2026-03-29 12:59 +0000
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-25 07:20 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 01:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 22:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 16:01 +1100
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-03-21 11:59 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-21 13:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 02:16 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-19 11:01 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-20 00:40 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 14:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-20 16:57 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-20 07:06 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-20 18:55 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-20 10:11 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 01:43 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-20 17:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 09:28 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 09:35 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 16:08 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 06:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 18:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 09:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 02:02 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 16:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 05:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-21 20:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 16:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 06:56 -0700
Re: energy and mass Donovan Rocca <onon@nanna.it> - 2026-03-19 20:31 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-20 01:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-14 21:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Adiel Ungaretti <tdlla@rdrlnng.it> - 2026-03-14 21:31 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-17 08:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 00:13 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 08:09 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 08:35 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 03:24 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 14:33 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 15:25 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-18 13:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 23:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-18 15:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 14:51 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 07:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 18:07 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 13:06 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 02:15 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 08:39 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 08:49 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 22:43 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 16:15 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 07:50 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 08:06 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 08:18 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 08:34 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-18 13:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 00:02 +1100
Re: energy and mass Rian Wojewódzki <encmzd@jw.pl> - 2026-03-18 13:55 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-19 11:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-20 01:16 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 22:32 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-20 10:55 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-20 04:28 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-21 09:42 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-21 07:35 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-22 10:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 21:24 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-23 08:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 21:25 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 08:07 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 17:56 +1100
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-03-24 10:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 05:46 -0700
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-24 19:25 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 12:44 -0700
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-24 21:41 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 14:12 -0700
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-24 23:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-24 23:29 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-24 19:55 -0700
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-03-25 09:36 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-25 07:25 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-26 02:25 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-26 14:11 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-27 02:10 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-26 08:47 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-25 13:33 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-25 13:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 17:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-04-05 01:07 +0200
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-04-05 01:58 +0200
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-22 08:13 -0700
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-25 08:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 21:21 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-26 14:29 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-27 02:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 01:41 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 13:06 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-21 09:53 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-21 13:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 02:36 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-22 10:15 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 21:38 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-23 08:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 21:45 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-22 08:16 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-18 13:05 +0100
Re: energy and mass Howard Takeshita <rrad@ar.jp> - 2026-03-18 13:40 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 03:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-14 10:18 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 02:58 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-15 03:41 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-01 13:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 06:51 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-28 07:06 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-01 17:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-01 10:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-28 10:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-01 00:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-01 10:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-01 21:03 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-03 10:06 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-03 23:40 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 13:47 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-04 16:25 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 02:52 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-07 23:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-06 09:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-07 00:36 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 07:47 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-07 17:12 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 06:59 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-08 11:33 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 19:19 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-09 01:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 08:29 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-09 12:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 20:04 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 20:17 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 00:09 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 07:36 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 09:09 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 14:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 14:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-10 21:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-10 23:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 16:14 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 08:13 +0100
Re: energy and mass "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2026-03-11 13:50 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 14:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 00:24 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 16:10 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 16:07 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 07:11 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 18:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 09:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 22:22 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 12:56 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 03:36 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-12 23:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 14:16 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-13 03:45 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ronnie Pantelakos <ina@snl.gr> - 2026-03-12 17:38 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-12 22:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Tathan Nagahama <gagngt@mmatata.jp> - 2026-03-12 22:11 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-13 01:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Cristobal Umehara <be@iu.jp> - 2026-03-13 16:50 +0000
Re: energy and mass Jairo Pantelakos <soaonjo@iai.gr> - 2026-03-14 13:21 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-14 16:18 +0100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-14 20:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 16:59 -0700
GPS (was: energy and mass) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-14 16:23 +0100
Re: GPS (was: energy and mass) Brock Nakamura <cruan@bknkkror.jp> - 2026-03-14 15:39 +0000
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-14 18:31 +0100
Re: energy and mass Virgil Dömötör <rr@egi.hu> - 2026-03-14 17:43 +0000
Re: GPS (was: energy and mass) Kyndal Zsoldos <odondo@ndzsda.hu> - 2026-03-14 15:52 +0000
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-14 18:37 +0100
Re: GPS Mikey Santiago <ime@ymsn.pt> - 2026-03-14 19:49 +0000
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-15 15:29 +0100
Re: GPS Frauly Christakos <acrahr@afrafs.gr> - 2026-03-15 14:37 +0000
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-15 19:17 +0100
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-15 19:22 +0100
Re: energy and mass Enmanuel Jacques <cucus@mulneam.fr> - 2026-03-15 20:00 +0000
GPS (was: energy and mass) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-15 22:40 +0100
Re: GPS Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-15 23:06 +0100
Re: GPS (was: energy and mass) Nestor Rooijakkers <skk@ereno.nl> - 2026-03-16 14:15 +0000
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-16 15:37 +0100
Re: GPS Bernie Gonzalez <inzbi@rol.es> - 2026-03-16 17:13 +0000
Re: energy and mass athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-16 11:27 +0000
Re: energy and mass Shay Hofwegen <gwg@eewyow.nl> - 2026-03-16 17:25 +0000
Re: GPS Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 08:08 -0700
Re: GPS Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-16 10:16 +0100
Re: GPS Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 05:26 -0700
Re: GPS Leopold Bicchieri <deo@rehi.it> - 2026-03-16 14:26 +0000
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-14 18:16 +0100
Re: GPS Lowen Missiakos <osmi@wlss.gr> - 2026-03-14 17:49 +0000
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-14 19:44 +0100
Re: GPS Ridge Górski <kgie@gigg.pl> - 2026-03-14 19:39 +0000
Re: GPS Krinden Hoffmann <efne@roeaa.de> - 2026-03-15 14:44 +0000
GPS (was: energy and mass) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-16 01:20 +0100
GPS (was: energy and mass) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-16 01:22 +0100
Re: GPS (was: energy and mass) Jovanni Rodrigues <iav@ignj.pt> - 2026-03-16 14:00 +0000
Re: GPS Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-03-16 15:26 +0100
Re: GPS Webster Schuchardt <tcbr@tteue.de> - 2026-03-16 14:33 +0000
Re: GPS Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 07:54 -0700
Re: GPS Hever Ramires <ihme@aermr.pt> - 2026-03-16 17:09 +0000
Re: GPS Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 11:08 -0700
Re: GPS Kile Karolina <oeelka@aili.net> - 2026-03-17 18:05 +0000
Re: GPS Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 14:44 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-12 21:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Donel Profeta <aadeafe@nefe.it> - 2026-03-15 15:17 +0000
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 18:45 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 11:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-12 10:35 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 22:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-03-13 10:24 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-14 03:42 +1100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-15 21:42 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-16 21:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-16 08:55 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-17 18:06 +1100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-17 01:14 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 00:29 +1100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-17 10:34 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 15:49 +1100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-18 00:27 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-18 21:00 +1100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-18 11:07 -0700
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-18 11:47 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 15:14 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 07:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 18:11 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 15:07 +1100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-18 23:07 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 18:24 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 09:31 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-19 20:38 +1100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-19 11:54 -0700
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-20 11:59 -0700
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-20 15:28 -0700
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-03-22 12:12 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 23:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 16:23 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-19 07:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 07:32 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 15:56 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-11 11:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 10:59 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 11:41 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 13:18 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-09 23:59 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 07:32 -0700
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-09 21:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 15:24 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 15:37 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 22:07 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-10 16:58 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 23:26 -0700
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 09:25 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 04:33 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 10:45 -0700
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-11 16:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 08:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-12 00:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2026-03-11 16:10 +0100
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-16 21:50 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10p8n92$1tf8d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #669928 |
On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > Bill Sloman wrote: >> >> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>> ... >>> >>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>> >>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people >>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor >>>> grasp of reality >>>> >>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>> >>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got >>>> famous. >>> >>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation >>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. >>> >>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would >>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >> >> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some >> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >> >> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on >> doing all his life. > > Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on > doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from > one city to another city... > > Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's > Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" > > "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of > quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization > of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic > transmission to quantum state on the other > location, in order to be materialized there." > > (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other > location). Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. > Put simply, it would get you from here to there... You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky > and also, trying to get Charlie Chaplain's wife to sit on Albert > Einstein's lap for experimental purposes only. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oona_O%27Neill Einstein and O'Neill moved in the same social circles, and presumably met one other, but there's no record of any close connection. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-16 08:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69B827FA.667C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #669940 |
Bill Sloman wrote: > > On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > > Bill Sloman wrote: > >> > >> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: > >>> ... > >>> > >>>>>>>> True. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of > >>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. > >>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. > >>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an > >>>>>>> insane crazy instead. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. > >>>>> ... > >>>>> > >>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a > >>>>> 'disinformation agent'. > >>>> > >>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people > >>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor > >>>> grasp of reality > >>>> > >>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. > >>>> > >>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got > >>>> famous. > >>> > >>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation > >>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. > >>> > >>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would > >>> been asked to prove his jewishness. > >> > >> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some > >> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. > >> > >> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on > >> doing all his life. > > > > Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on > > doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from > > one city to another city... > > > > Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's > > Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" > > > > "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of > > quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization > > of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic > > transmission to quantum state on the other > > location, in order to be materialized there." > > > > (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other > > location). > > Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. > > Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up > in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. > > Put simply, it would get you from here to there... > > You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm > of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies > transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of > mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of > matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. It is simply a 'cut and paste'. You cut it from and paste it there. Like on a computer.. you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, you...cut-and-paste it to your other hard drive and it reappears there! Not copy and paste, cut and paste. You scan each atom delete it. and paste it there. spooky at a distance. Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? I didn't see any mouse or any computers on his desk... Like Steve Jobs said..."How does the mouse work?" -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 18:06 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pauhm$2ldum$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #669970 |
On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: > Bill Sloman wrote: >> >> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>> >>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>> >>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people >>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor >>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>> >>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got >>>>>> famous. >>>>> >>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation >>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. >>>>> >>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would >>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>> >>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some >>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >>>> >>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on >>>> doing all his life. >>> >>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from >>> one city to another city... >>> >>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's >>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>> >>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of >>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization >>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic >>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>> >>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other >>> location). >> >> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. >> >> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up >> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >> >> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm >> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies >> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of >> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of >> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky > > "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. > > It is simply a 'cut and paste'. > > You cut it from and paste it there. > > Like on a computer.. > you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, > you...cut-and-paste it > to your other hard drive and it reappears there! > > Not copy and paste, cut and paste. A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. > You scan each atom > delete it. and paste it there. Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the process in less than a millisecond. > spooky at a distance. > > Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? > I didn't see any mouse or any computers on his desk... The mouse was invented in 1968. but was preceded by trackerballs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_mouse I've always associated it with the Xerox PARC labs who pioneered personal computers in the early 1970's. It took a lot of engineering to get the price down to mass market levels, and it didn't happen at Xerox. > Like Steve Jobs said..."How does the mouse work?" -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 01:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69B90D4A.CB1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #669988 |
Bill Sloman wrote: > > On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: > > Bill Sloman wrote: > >> > >> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: > >>>>> ... > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> True. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of > >>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. > >>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. > >>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an > >>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. > >>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a > >>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people > >>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor > >>>>>> grasp of reality > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got > >>>>>> famous. > >>>>> > >>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation > >>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. > >>>>> > >>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would > >>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. > >>>> > >>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some > >>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. > >>>> > >>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on > >>>> doing all his life. > >>> > >>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on > >>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from > >>> one city to another city... > >>> > >>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's > >>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" > >>> > >>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of > >>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization > >>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic > >>> transmission to quantum state on the other > >>> location, in order to be materialized there." > >>> > >>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other > >>> location). > >> > >> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. > >> > >> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up > >> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. > >>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... > >> > >> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm > >> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies > >> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of > >> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of > >> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky > > > > "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. > > > > It is simply a 'cut and paste'. > > > > You cut it from and paste it there. > > > > Like on a computer.. > > you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, > > you...cut-and-paste it > > to your other hard drive and it reappears there! > > > > Not copy and paste, cut and paste. > > A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" > followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory > budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. > > > You scan each atom > > delete it. and paste it there. > > Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a > person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the > process in less than a millisecond. > > > spooky at a distance. > > > > Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? > > Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? Yes, you gave us the edvience. You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on doing all his life." You were refering to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his life. What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? In 'science gargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location of the displaced mass.' In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another place. You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it another place. "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known physical laws. ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was never completed. During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and explosions. " I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestrial mechanics. https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 but it is not finished... -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 00:29 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pbkvs$2u86c$2@dont-email.me> |
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On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > Bill Sloman wrote: >> >> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>> >>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people >>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor >>>>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got >>>>>>>> famous. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation >>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would >>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>>>> >>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some >>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >>>>>> >>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>> doing all his life. >>>>> >>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from >>>>> one city to another city... >>>>> >>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's >>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>>>> >>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of >>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization >>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic >>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>>>> >>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other >>>>> location). >>>> >>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. >>>> >>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up >>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >>>> >>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm >>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies >>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of >>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of >>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky >>> >>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. >>> >>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. >>> >>> You cut it from and paste it there. >>> >>> Like on a computer.. >>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, >>> you...cut-and-paste it >>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! >>> >>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. >> >> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" >> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory >> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. >> >>> You scan each atom >>> delete it. and paste it there. >> >> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a >> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the >> process in less than a millisecond. >> >>> spooky at a distance. >>> >>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? >> >> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? > > Yes, you gave us the evidence. > > You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that > he kept on doing all his life." > > > You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his > life. > > What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong nuclear forces. > In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other > masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location > of the displaced mass.' > > In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another > place. No. > You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it > another place. Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible > "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force > fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known > physical laws. > ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was > never completed. > During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's > Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and > explosions. " The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. > I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it > 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. > > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > > but it is not finished... Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers uncomfortably often. Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-17 10:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69B990A7.1129@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #670014 |
Bill Sloman wrote: > > On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > > Bill Sloman wrote: > >> > >> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: > >>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> True. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. > >>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an > >>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. > >>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a > >>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people > >>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor > >>>>>>>> grasp of reality > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got > >>>>>>>> famous. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation > >>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would > >>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some > >>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on > >>>>>> doing all his life. > >>>>> > >>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on > >>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from > >>>>> one city to another city... > >>>>> > >>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's > >>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" > >>>>> > >>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of > >>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization > >>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic > >>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other > >>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." > >>>>> > >>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other > >>>>> location). > >>>> > >>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. > >>>> > >>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up > >>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. > >>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... > >>>> > >>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm > >>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies > >>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of > >>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of > >>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky > >>> > >>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. > >>> > >>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. > >>> > >>> You cut it from and paste it there. > >>> > >>> Like on a computer.. > >>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, > >>> you...cut-and-paste it > >>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! > >>> > >>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. > >> > >> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" > >> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory > >> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. > >> > >>> You scan each atom > >>> delete it. and paste it there. > >> > >> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a > >> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the > >> process in less than a millisecond. > >> > >>> spooky at a distance. > >>> > >>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? > >> > >> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? > > > > Yes, you gave us the evidence. > > > > You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that > > he kept on doing all his life." > > > > > > You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his > > life. > > > > What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? > > It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong > nuclear forces. > > > In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other > > masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location > > of the displaced mass.' > > > > In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another > > place. > > No. > > > You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it > > another place. > > Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new > universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible > > > "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force > > fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known > > physical laws. > > ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was > > never completed. > > During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's > > Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and > > explosions. " > > The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. > > > I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it > > 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. > > > > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > > > > but it is not finished... > > Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, > you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate > is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers > uncomfortably often. > > Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different > places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out > of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent > six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger > sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. > > -- > Bill Sloman, Sydney It's also not science fiction as you claim to be... Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleportation The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 'beam me up, Scotty.' i notice you have a Scottish accent... are you slow? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 15:49 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pdas8$3h168$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #670041 |
On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: > Bill Sloman wrote: >> >> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>> >>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people >>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor >>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got >>>>>>>>>> famous. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation >>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would >>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some >>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>> doing all his life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from >>>>>>> one city to another city... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's >>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of >>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization >>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic >>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other >>>>>>> location). >>>>>> >>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. >>>>>> >>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up >>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >>>>>> >>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm >>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies >>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of >>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of >>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky >>>>> >>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. >>>>> >>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. >>>>> >>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. >>>>> >>>>> Like on a computer.. >>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, >>>>> you...cut-and-paste it >>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! >>>>> >>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. >>>> >>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" >>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory >>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. >>>> >>>>> You scan each atom >>>>> delete it. and paste it there. >>>> >>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a >>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the >>>> process in less than a millisecond. >>>> >>>>> spooky at a distance. >>>>> >>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? >>>> >>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? >>> >>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. >>> >>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that >>> he kept on doing all his life." >>> >>> >>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his >>> life. >>> >>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? >> >> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong >> nuclear forces. >> >>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other >>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location >>> of the displaced mass.' >>> >>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another >>> place. >> >> No. >> >>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it >>> another place. >> >> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new >> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible >> >>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force >>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known >>> physical laws. >>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was >>> never completed. >>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's >>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and >>> explosions. " >> >> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. >> >>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it >>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. >>> >>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >>> >>> but it is not finished... >> >> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, >> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate >> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers >> uncomfortably often. >> >> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different >> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out >> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent >> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger >> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. > > It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having half-baked ideas about using it in real life. > Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. > Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. > > https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleportation A quantum state doesn't have any mass. > The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger > for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. > > https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. > > and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. > > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > > 'beam me up, Scotty.' Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. > I notice you have a Scottish accent... Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I don't seem to have picked up his accent. > are you slow? My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who farmed bottom land close to a river. I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 00:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69BA53EC.676@ix.netcom.com> |
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Bill Sloman wrote: > > On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: > > Bill Sloman wrote: > >> > >> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: > >>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an > >>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. > >>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a > >>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people > >>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor > >>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got > >>>>>>>>>> famous. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation > >>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would > >>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some > >>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on > >>>>>>>> doing all his life. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on > >>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from > >>>>>>> one city to another city... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's > >>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of > >>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization > >>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic > >>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other > >>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other > >>>>>>> location). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up > >>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. > >>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm > >>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies > >>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of > >>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of > >>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky > >>>>> > >>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. > >>>>> > >>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. > >>>>> > >>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. > >>>>> > >>>>> Like on a computer.. > >>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, > >>>>> you...cut-and-paste it > >>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! > >>>>> > >>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. > >>>> > >>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" > >>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory > >>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. > >>>> > >>>>> You scan each atom > >>>>> delete it. and paste it there. > >>>> > >>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a > >>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the > >>>> process in less than a millisecond. > >>>> > >>>>> spooky at a distance. > >>>>> > >>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? > >>>> > >>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? > >>> > >>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. > >>> > >>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that > >>> he kept on doing all his life." > >>> > >>> > >>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his > >>> life. > >>> > >>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? > >> > >> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong > >> nuclear forces. > >> > >>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other > >>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location > >>> of the displaced mass.' > >>> > >>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another > >>> place. > >> > >> No. > >> > >>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it > >>> another place. > >> > >> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new > >> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible > >> > >>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force > >>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known > >>> physical laws. > >>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was > >>> never completed. > >>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's > >>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and > >>> explosions. " > >> > >> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. > >> > >>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it > >>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. > >>> > >>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>> > >>> but it is not finished... > >> > >> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, > >> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate > >> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers > >> uncomfortably often. > >> > >> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different > >> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out > >> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent > >> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger > >> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. > > > > It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ > > It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having > half-baked ideas about using it in real life. > > > Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. > > Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. > > > > https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleportati > > A quantum state doesn't have any mass. > > > The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger > > for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. > > > > https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. > > > > and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. > > > > https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > > > 'beam me up, Scotty.' > > Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. > > > I notice you have a Scottish accent... > > Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is > educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One > work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I > don't seem to have picked up his accent. > > > are you slow? > > My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans > in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone > directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who > farmed bottom land close to a river. > > I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. > All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one > now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who > ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide > University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on > to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 > patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility. > > -- > Bill Sloman, Sydney Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers don't understand physics. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 21:00 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pdt44$3n2fa$3@dont-email.me> |
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On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > Bill Sloman wrote: >> >> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>> >>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people >>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor >>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got >>>>>>>>>>>> famous. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation >>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would >>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some >>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from >>>>>>>>> one city to another city... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's >>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of >>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization >>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic >>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other >>>>>>>>> location). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up >>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm >>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies >>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of >>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of >>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like on a computer.. >>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, >>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it >>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. >>>>>> >>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" >>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory >>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. >>>>>> >>>>>>> You scan each atom >>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a >>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the >>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. >>>>>> >>>>>>> spooky at a distance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. >>>>> >>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that >>>>> he kept on doing all his life." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his >>>>> life. >>>>> >>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? >>>> >>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong >>>> nuclear forces. >>>> >>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other >>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location >>>>> of the displaced mass.' >>>>> >>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another >>>>> place. >>>> >>>> No. >>>> >>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it >>>>> another place. >>>> >>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new >>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible >>>> >>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force >>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known >>>>> physical laws. >>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was >>>>> never completed. >>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's >>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and >>>>> explosions. " >>>> >>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. >>>> >>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it >>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. >>>>> >>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >>>>> >>>>> but it is not finished... >>>> >>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, >>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate >>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers >>>> uncomfortably often. >>>> >>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different >>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out >>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent >>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger >>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. >>> >>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ >> >> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having >> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. >> >>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. >>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. >>> >>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleportati >> >> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. >> >>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger >>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. >>> >>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. >>> >>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. >>> >>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' >> >> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. >> >>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... >> >> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is >> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One >> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I >> don't seem to have picked up his accent. >> >>> are you slow? >> >> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans >> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone >> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who >> farmed bottom land close to a river. >> >> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. >> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one >> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who >> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide >> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on >> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 >> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility. > > Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers > don't understand physics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical concerns to their superiors." It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 11:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69BAE9E5.712@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #670073 |
Bill Sloman wrote: > > On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > > Bill Sloman wrote: > >> > >> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: > >>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor > >>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got > >>>>>>>>>>>> famous. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation > >>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would > >>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some > >>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on > >>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on > >>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from > >>>>>>>>> one city to another city... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's > >>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of > >>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization > >>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic > >>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other > >>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other > >>>>>>>>> location). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up > >>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. > >>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm > >>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies > >>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of > >>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of > >>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Like on a computer.. > >>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, > >>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it > >>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" > >>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory > >>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> You scan each atom > >>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a > >>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the > >>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> spooky at a distance. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. > >>>>> > >>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that > >>>>> he kept on doing all his life." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his > >>>>> life. > >>>>> > >>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? > >>>> > >>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong > >>>> nuclear forces. > >>>> > >>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other > >>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location > >>>>> of the displaced mass.' > >>>>> > >>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another > >>>>> place. > >>>> > >>>> No. > >>>> > >>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it > >>>>> another place. > >>>> > >>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new > >>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible > >>>> > >>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force > >>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known > >>>>> physical laws. > >>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was > >>>>> never completed. > >>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's > >>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and > >>>>> explosions. " > >>>> > >>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. > >>>> > >>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it > >>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. > >>>>> > >>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>>>> > >>>>> but it is not finished... > >>>> > >>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, > >>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate > >>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers > >>>> uncomfortably often. > >>>> > >>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different > >>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out > >>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent > >>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger > >>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. > >>> > >>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ > >> > >> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having > >> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. > >> > >>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. > >>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. > >>> > >>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleporta > >> > >> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. > >> > >>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger > >>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. > >>> > >>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. > >>> > >>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. > >>> > >>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > > >>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' > >> > >> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. > >> > >>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... > >> > >> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is > >> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One > >> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I > >> don't seem to have picked up his accent. > >> > >>> are you slow? > >> > >> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans > >> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone > >> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who > >> farmed bottom land close to a river. > >> > >> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. > >> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one > >> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who > >> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide > >> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on > >> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 > >> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility. From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman > > > > Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers > > don't understand physics. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster > > The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB > manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA > managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of > launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical > concerns to their superiors." > > It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and > warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. > "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way. then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die? I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi. no more bathroom bets. I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak. You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds... > -- > Bill Sloman, Sydney -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| Date | 2026-03-18 11:47 -0700 |
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The Starmaker wrote: > > Bill Sloman wrote: > > > > On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Bill Sloman wrote: > > >> > > >> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> Bill Sloman wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: > > >>>>>>>>>>> ... > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people > > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor > > >>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got > > >>>>>>>>>>>> famous. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation > > >>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would > > >>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some > > >>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on > > >>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on > > >>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from > > >>>>>>>>> one city to another city... > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's > > >>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of > > >>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization > > >>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic > > >>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other > > >>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other > > >>>>>>>>> location). > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up > > >>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. > > >>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm > > >>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies > > >>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of > > >>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of > > >>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Like on a computer.. > > >>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, > > >>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it > > >>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" > > >>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory > > >>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> You scan each atom > > >>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a > > >>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the > > >>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> spooky at a distance. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that > > >>>>> he kept on doing all his life." > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his > > >>>>> life. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? > > >>>> > > >>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong > > >>>> nuclear forces. > > >>>> > > >>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other > > >>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location > > >>>>> of the displaced mass.' > > >>>>> > > >>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another > > >>>>> place. > > >>>> > > >>>> No. > > >>>> > > >>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it > > >>>>> another place. > > >>>> > > >>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new > > >>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible > > >>>> > > >>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force > > >>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known > > >>>>> physical laws. > > >>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was > > >>>>> never completed. > > >>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's > > >>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and > > >>>>> explosions. " > > >>>> > > >>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. > > >>>> > > >>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it > > >>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> but it is not finished... > > >>>> > > >>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, > > >>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate > > >>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers > > >>>> uncomfortably often. > > >>>> > > >>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different > > >>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out > > >>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent > > >>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger > > >>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. > > >>> > > >>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ > > >> > > >> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having > > >> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. > > >> > > >>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. > > >>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. > > >>> > > >>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor > > >> > > >> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. > > >> > > >>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger > > >>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. > > >>> > > >>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. > > >>> > > >>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. > > >>> > > >>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > > > >>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' > > >> > > >> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. > > >> > > >>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... > > >> > > >> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is > > >> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One > > >> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I > > >> don't seem to have picked up his accent. > > >> > > >>> are you slow? > > >> > > >> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans > > >> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone > > >> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who > > >> farmed bottom land close to a river. > > >> > > >> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. > > >> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one > > >> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who > > >> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide > > >> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on > > >> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 > > >> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility. > > From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person. > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman > > > > > > > Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers > > > don't understand physics. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster > > > > > The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB > > manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA > > managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of > > launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical > > concerns to their superiors." > > > > It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and > > warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. > > > > "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way. > > then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die? > > I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi. > > no more bathroom bets. > > I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak. > > You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds... Let's call it what it is, the engineers are guilty of negligent MURDER. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 15:14 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pft7c$d4ji$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #670120 |
On 19/03/2026 5:47 am, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> Bill Sloman wrote: >>> >>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would >>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some >>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from >>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's >>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of >>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization >>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic >>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other >>>>>>>>>>>> location). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up >>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm >>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies >>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of >>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of >>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer.. >>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, >>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it >>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" >>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory >>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom >>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a >>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the >>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that >>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his >>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong >>>>>>> nuclear forces. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other >>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location >>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another >>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it >>>>>>>> another place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new >>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force >>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known >>>>>>>> physical laws. >>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was >>>>>>>> never completed. >>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's >>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and >>>>>>>> explosions. " >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it >>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but it is not finished... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, >>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate >>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers >>>>>>> uncomfortably often. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different >>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out >>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent >>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger >>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ >>>>> >>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having >>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. >>>>> >>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. >>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor >>>>> >>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. >>>>> >>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger >>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. >>>>>> >>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' >>>>> >>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. >>>>> >>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... >>>>> >>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is >>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One >>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I >>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent. >>>>> >>>>>> are you slow? >>>>> >>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans >>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone >>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who >>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. >>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one >>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who >>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide >>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on >>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 >>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility. >> >> From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person. >> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman >> >>>> >>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers >>>> don't understand physics. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster >> >>> >>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB >>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA >>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of >>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical >>> concerns to their superiors." >>> >>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and >>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. >>> >> >> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way. >> >> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die? >> >> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi. >> >> no more bathroom bets. >> >> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak. >> >> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds... > > Let's call it what it is, the engineers are guilty of negligent MURDER. You've clearly seen "The China Syndrome". It's a fantasy.The engineers are never let close enough to the action to be in a position to intervene, or in the Challenger case, to save anybody's life. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 07:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <189e2b3d9b33a86a$341233$3722891$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #670131 |
On 3/19/2026 5:14 AM, Bill Sloman wrote: > On 19/03/2026 5:47 am, The Starmaker wrote: >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>> >>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sloman: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather poor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible explanation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offered to him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted and would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy >>>>>>>>>>>>> war ship from >>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's >>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled >>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of >>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of >>>>>>>>>>>>> dematerialization >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, >>>>>>>>>>>>> electronic >>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>> location). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction >>>>>>>>>>>> author he had to. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It >>>>>>>>>>>> didn't show up >>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. >>>>>>>>>>>> Transforming some 70kgm >>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter >>>>>>>>>>>> implies >>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb >>>>>>>>>>>> transforms 0.7kgm of >>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the >>>>>>>>>>>> right sort of >>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer.. >>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, >>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it >>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy >>>>>>>>>> and paste" >>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight >>>>>>>>>> memory >>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom >>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have >>>>>>>>>> half a >>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could >>>>>>>>>> complete the >>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on >>>>>>>>>> it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific >>>>>>>>> work that >>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working >>>>>>>>> on all his >>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and >>>>>>>> strong >>>>>>>> nuclear forces. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting >>>>>>>>> on other >>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new >>>>>>>>> location >>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to >>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and >>>>>>>>> paste it >>>>>>>>> another place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new >>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of >>>>>>>>> force >>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform >>>>>>>>> to known >>>>>>>>> physical laws. >>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory >>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>> never completed. >>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the >>>>>>>>> Navy's >>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on >>>>>>>>> explosives and >>>>>>>>> explosions. " >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math >>>>>>>>> on it >>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial >>>>>>>>> mechanics. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but it is not finished... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep >>>>>>>> enough, >>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your >>>>>>>> success rate >>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other >>>>>>>> researchers >>>>>>>> uncomfortably often. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in >>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 >>>>>>>> million out >>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional >>>>>>>> patent >>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much >>>>>>>> larger >>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ >>>>>> >>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having >>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton >>>>>>> Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. >>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a >>>>>>> phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible >>>>>>> to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search? >>>>>>> sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL- >>>>>>> n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor >>>>>> >>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. >>>>>> >>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John >>>>>>> F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger >>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the >>>>>>> foundation for the field of quantum information science, >>>>>>> including quantum teleportation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/ >>>>>>> #:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion >>>>>>> for...teleportation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' >>>>>> >>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... >>>>>> >>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is >>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in >>>>>> England. One >>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I >>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent. >>>>>> >>>>>>> are you slow? >>>>>> >>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of >>>>>> Slomans >>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone >>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who >>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a >>>>>> Ph.D. >>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one >>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever >>>>>> vet, who >>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide >>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both >>>>>> moved on >>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My >>>>>> father's 25 >>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of >>>>>> humility. >>> >>> From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person. >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman >>> >>>>> >>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers >>>>> don't understand physics. >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster >>> >>>> >>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB >>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA >>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of >>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical >>>> concerns to their superiors." >>>> >>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and >>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. >>>> >>> >>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way. >>> >>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die? >>> >>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi. >>> >>> no more bathroom bets. >>> >>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak. >>> >>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds... >> >> Let's call it what it is, the engineers are guilty of negligent MURDER. > > You've clearly seen "The China Syndrome". > > It's a fantasy.The engineers are never let close enough to the action to > be in a position to intervene, or in the Challenger case, to save > anybody's life. In 2 days you will write the opposite, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that you're a knight of The Shit of Einstein and you expect some obedience. Right, trash? >
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 18:11 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pg7k7$ggtm$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #670139 |
On 19/03/2026 5:47 pm, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > On 3/19/2026 5:14 AM, Bill Sloman wrote: >> On 19/03/2026 5:47 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sloman: <snip> >> It's a fantasy.The engineers are never let close enough to the action >> to be in a position to intervene, or in the Challenger case, to save >> anybody's life. > > In 2 days you will write the opposite, but > it doesn't matter. What matters is that you're > a knight of The Shit of Einstein and you expect > some obedience. Right, trash? The third example of the new - or at least slightly modified - insult. Variety is the spice of life, and you haven't got one. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 15:07 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pfspv$d4ji$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #670116 |
On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote: > Bill Sloman wrote: >> >> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>> >>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got >>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation >>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would >>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some >>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from >>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's >>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of >>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization >>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic >>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other >>>>>>>>>>> location). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up >>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm >>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies >>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of >>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of >>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Like on a computer.. >>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, >>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it >>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" >>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory >>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You scan each atom >>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a >>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the >>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that >>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his >>>>>>> life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? >>>>>> >>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong >>>>>> nuclear forces. >>>>>> >>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other >>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location >>>>>>> of the displaced mass.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another >>>>>>> place. >>>>>> >>>>>> No. >>>>>> >>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it >>>>>>> another place. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new >>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible >>>>>> >>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force >>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known >>>>>>> physical laws. >>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was >>>>>>> never completed. >>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's >>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and >>>>>>> explosions. " >>>>>> >>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it >>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but it is not finished... >>>>>> >>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, >>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate >>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers >>>>>> uncomfortably often. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different >>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out >>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent >>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger >>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. >>>>> >>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ >>>> >>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having >>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. >>>> >>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. >>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+teleporta >>>> >>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. >>>> >>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger >>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. >>>>> >>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. >>>>> >>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' >>>> >>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. >>>> >>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... >>>> >>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is >>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One >>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I >>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent. >>>> >>>>> are you slow? >>>> >>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans >>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone >>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who >>>> farmed bottom land close to a river. >>>> >>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. >>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one >>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who >>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide >>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on >>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 >>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility. > > From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person. Always corrupted into snowman. > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman >>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers >>> don't understand physics. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster > >> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB >> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA >> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of >> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical >> concerns to their superiors." >> >> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and >> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. > > "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way. I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me. > then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die? It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff - pointless paper-shuffling. > I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi. You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a crime. > no more bathroom bets. > > I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak. That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have to be on tap rather than on top. > You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds... They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business, but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger demotivator. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 23:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69BB92B9.1DB0@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #670130 |
Bill Sloman wrote:
>
> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>
> >> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some
> >>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on
> >>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from
> >>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's
> >>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal"
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of
> >>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization
> >>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic
> >>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other
> >>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other
> >>>>>>>>>>> location).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up
> >>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm
> >>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies
> >>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of
> >>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of
> >>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Like on a computer..
> >>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you,
> >>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it
> >>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste"
> >>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory
> >>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You scan each atom
> >>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a
> >>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the
> >>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that
> >>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his
> >>>>>>> life.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong
> >>>>>> nuclear forces.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other
> >>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location
> >>>>>>> of the displaced mass.'
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another
> >>>>>>> place.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it
> >>>>>>> another place.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new
> >>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force
> >>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known
> >>>>>>> physical laws.
> >>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was
> >>>>>>> never completed.
> >>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's
> >>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and
> >>>>>>> explosions. "
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it
> >>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but it is not finished...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough,
> >>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate
> >>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers
> >>>>>> uncomfortably often.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different
> >>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out
> >>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent
> >>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger
> >>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\
> >>>>
> >>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having
> >>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states.
> >>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor
> >>>>
> >>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger
> >>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >
> >>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.'
> >>>>
> >>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent...
> >>>>
> >>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is
> >>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One
> >>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I
> >>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent.
> >>>>
> >>>>> are you slow?
> >>>>
> >>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans
> >>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone
> >>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who
> >>>> farmed bottom land close to a river.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D.
> >>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one
> >>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who
> >>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide
> >>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on
> >>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25
> >>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility.
> >
> > From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person.
>
> Always corrupted into snowman.
>
> > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman
> >>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers
> >>> don't understand physics.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
> >
> >> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB
> >> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA
> >> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of
> >> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical
> >> concerns to their superiors."
> >>
> >> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and
> >> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot.
> >
> > "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way.
>
> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my
> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me.
>
> > then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die?
>
> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff
> - pointless paper-shuffling.
>
> > I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi.
>
> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a
> crime.
>
> > no more bathroom bets.
> >
> > I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak.
>
> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have
> to be on tap rather than on top.
>
> > You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds...
>
> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business,
> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger
> demotivator.
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney
The internal reality
After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission
uncovered a huge gap:
NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000
(extremely optimistic)
Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be
closer to 1 in 100 or even worse
That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a
single honest, agreed-upon number—so it certainly wasn’t clearly
communicated to McAuliffe.
She wasn’t told specific odds—and if she had been told the most
realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from
the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the
time.
That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money...
But, it's okay to look the other way...
Everytime they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they
gots mouths to feed.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-19 18:24 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pg8ck$ggtm$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #670134 |
On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > Bill Sloman wrote: >> >> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>> >>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from >>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's >>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of >>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic >>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other >>>>>>>>>>>>> location). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up >>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm >>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies >>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of >>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of >>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer.. >>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, >>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it >>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" >>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory >>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom >>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a >>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the >>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that >>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his >>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong >>>>>>>> nuclear forces. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other >>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location >>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another >>>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it >>>>>>>>> another place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new >>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force >>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known >>>>>>>>> physical laws. >>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was >>>>>>>>> never completed. >>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's >>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and >>>>>>>>> explosions. " >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it >>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but it is not finished... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, >>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate >>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers >>>>>>>> uncomfortably often. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different >>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out >>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent >>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger >>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ >>>>>> >>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having >>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. >>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor >>>>>> >>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. >>>>>> >>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger >>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' >>>>>> >>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... >>>>>> >>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is >>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One >>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I >>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent. >>>>>> >>>>>>> are you slow? >>>>>> >>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans >>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone >>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who >>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. >>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one >>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who >>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide >>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on >>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 >>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility. >>> >>> From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person. >> >> Always corrupted into snowman. >> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman >>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers >>>>> don't understand physics. >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster >>> >>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB >>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA >>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of >>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical >>>> concerns to their superiors." >>>> >>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and >>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. >>> >>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way. >> >> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my >> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me. >> >>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die? >> >> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff >> - pointless paper-shuffling. >> >>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi. >> >> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a >> crime. >> >>> no more bathroom bets. >>> >>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak. >> >> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have >> to be on tap rather than on top. >> >>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds... >> >> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business, >> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger >> demotivator. >> -- >> Bill Sloman, Sydney > > > The internal reality > > After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission > uncovered a huge gap: > > NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000 > (extremely optimistic) > > Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be > closer to 1 in 100 or even worse > > That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a > single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly > communicated to McAuliffe. McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the years. > She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most > realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from > the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the > time. > > That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money... Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding disasters > But, it's okay to look the other way... It most certainly isn't > Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they > got mouths to feed. Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns about safety get a lower priority. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-03-19 09:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <189e30f15894acdc$796725$3738624$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #670143 |
On 3/19/2026 8:24 AM, Bill Sloman wrote: > On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >> Bill Sloman wrote: >>> >>> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sloman: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> telling other people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather poor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible explanation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offered to him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted and would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> war ship from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled >>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dematerialization >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> location). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction >>>>>>>>>>>>> author he had to. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It >>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't show up >>>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Transforming some 70kgm >>>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter >>>>>>>>>>>>> implies >>>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb >>>>>>>>>>>>> transforms 0.7kgm of >>>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the >>>>>>>>>>>>> right sort of >>>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer.. >>>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then >>>>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it >>>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy >>>>>>>>>>> and paste" >>>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight >>>>>>>>>>> memory >>>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom >>>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have >>>>>>>>>>> half a >>>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could >>>>>>>>>>> complete the >>>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started >>>>>>>>>>> on it? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific >>>>>>>>>> work that >>>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working >>>>>>>>>> on all his >>>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak >>>>>>>>> and strong >>>>>>>>> nuclear forces. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting >>>>>>>>>> on other >>>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the >>>>>>>>>> new location >>>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.' >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to >>>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and >>>>>>>>>> paste it >>>>>>>>>> another place. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new >>>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of >>>>>>>>>> force >>>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform >>>>>>>>>> to known >>>>>>>>>> physical laws. >>>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field >>>>>>>>>> Theory was >>>>>>>>>> never completed. >>>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the >>>>>>>>>> Navy's >>>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on >>>>>>>>>> explosives and >>>>>>>>>> explosions. " >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math >>>>>>>>>> on it >>>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial >>>>>>>>>> mechanics. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but it is not finished... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep >>>>>>>>> enough, >>>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your >>>>>>>>> success rate >>>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other >>>>>>>>> researchers >>>>>>>>> uncomfortably often. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in >>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 >>>>>>>>> million out >>>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional >>>>>>>>> patent >>>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much >>>>>>>>> larger >>>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having >>>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton >>>>>>>> Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. >>>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a >>>>>>>> phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible >>>>>>>> to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search? >>>>>>>> sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL- >>>>>>>> n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, >>>>>>>> John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger >>>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid >>>>>>>> the foundation for the field of quantum information science, >>>>>>>> including quantum teleportation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/ >>>>>>>> #:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion >>>>>>>> for...teleportation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My >>>>>>> accent is >>>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in >>>>>>> England. One >>>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I >>>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> are you slow? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of >>>>>>> Slomans >>>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone >>>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who >>>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a >>>>>>> Ph.D. >>>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever >>>>>>> vet, who >>>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at >>>>>>> Adelaide >>>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both >>>>>>> moved on >>>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My >>>>>>> father's 25 >>>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of >>>>>>> humility. >>>> >>>> From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person. >>> >>> Always corrupted into snowman. >>> >>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman >>>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers >>>>>> don't understand physics. >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster >>>> >>>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB >>>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA >>>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of >>>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical >>>>> concerns to their superiors." >>>>> >>>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and >>>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. >>>> >>>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way. >>> >>> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my >>> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me. >>> >>>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die? >>> >>> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff >>> - pointless paper-shuffling. >>> >>>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi. >>> >>> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a >>> crime. >>> >>>> no more bathroom bets. >>>> >>>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak. >>> >>> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have >>> to be on tap rather than on top. >>> >>>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds... >>> >>> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business, >>> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger >>> demotivator. >>> -- >>> Bill Sloman, Sydney >> >> >> The internal reality >> >> After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission >> uncovered a huge gap: >> >> NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000 >> (extremely optimistic) >> >> Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be >> closer to 1 in 100 or even worse >> >> That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a >> single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly >> communicated to McAuliffe. > > McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the > years. > >> She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most >> realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from >> the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the >> time. >> >> That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money... > > Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies > put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding > disasters > >> But, it's okay to look the other way... > > It most certainly isn't > >> Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they >> got mouths to feed. > > Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging > impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns > about safety get a lower priority. In 2 days you will write the opposite, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that you're a knight of The Shit of Einstein and you expect some obedience. Right, trash? >
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 20:38 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10pgg76$jdak$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #670145 |
On 19/03/2026 7:31 pm, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > On 3/19/2026 8:24 AM, Bill Sloman wrote: >> On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>> >>>> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sloman: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> telling other people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather poor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible explanation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offered to him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted and would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navy war ship from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enabled idea of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dematerialization >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction >>>>>>>>>>>>>> author he had to. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't show up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Transforming some 70kgm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implies >>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> transforms 0.7kgm of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> right sort of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then >>>>>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it >>>>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy >>>>>>>>>>>> and paste" >>>>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very >>>>>>>>>>>> tight memory >>>>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom >>>>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd >>>>>>>>>>>> have half a >>>>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could >>>>>>>>>>>> complete the >>>>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started >>>>>>>>>>>> on it? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific >>>>>>>>>>> work that >>>>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working >>>>>>>>>>> on all his >>>>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak >>>>>>>>>> and strong >>>>>>>>>> nuclear forces. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force >>>>>>>>>>> acting on other >>>>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the >>>>>>>>>>> new location >>>>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.' >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to >>>>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and >>>>>>>>>>> paste it >>>>>>>>>>> another place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new >>>>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use >>>>>>>>>>> of force >>>>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform >>>>>>>>>>> to known >>>>>>>>>>> physical laws. >>>>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field >>>>>>>>>>> Theory was >>>>>>>>>>> never completed. >>>>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with >>>>>>>>>>> the Navy's >>>>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on >>>>>>>>>>> explosives and >>>>>>>>>>> explosions. " >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the >>>>>>>>>>> math on it >>>>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial >>>>>>>>>>> mechanics. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but it is not finished... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig >>>>>>>>>> deep enough, >>>>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your >>>>>>>>>> success rate >>>>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other >>>>>>>>>> researchers >>>>>>>>>> uncomfortably often. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in >>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 >>>>>>>>>> million out >>>>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a >>>>>>>>>> provisional patent >>>>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much >>>>>>>>>> larger >>>>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having >>>>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton >>>>>>>>> Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. >>>>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a >>>>>>>>> phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it >>>>>>>>> possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a >>>>>>>>> distance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search? >>>>>>>>> sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL- >>>>>>>>> n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telepor >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, >>>>>>>>> John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger >>>>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid >>>>>>>>> the foundation for the field of quantum information science, >>>>>>>>> including quantum teleportation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/ >>>>>>>>> #:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion >>>>>>>>> for...teleportation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>>>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My >>>>>>>> accent is >>>>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in >>>>>>>> England. One >>>>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, >>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> are you slow? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of >>>>>>>> Slomans >>>>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone >>>>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who >>>>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got >>>>>>>> a Ph.D. >>>>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated >>>>>>>> - one >>>>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever >>>>>>>> vet, who >>>>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at >>>>>>>> Adelaide >>>>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both >>>>>>>> moved on >>>>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My >>>>>>>> father's 25 >>>>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of >>>>>>>> humility. >>>>> >>>>> From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person. >>>> >>>> Always corrupted into snowman. >>>> >>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman >>>>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers >>>>>>> don't understand physics. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster >>>>> >>>>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB >>>>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA >>>>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of >>>>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical >>>>>> concerns to their superiors." >>>>>> >>>>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and >>>>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. >>>>> >>>>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way. >>>> >>>> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my >>>> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me. >>>> >>>>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die? >>>> >>>> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important >>>> stuff >>>> - pointless paper-shuffling. >>>> >>>>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi. >>>> >>>> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not >>>> yet a >>>> crime. >>>> >>>>> no more bathroom bets. >>>>> >>>>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak. >>>> >>>> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have >>>> to be on tap rather than on top. >>>> >>>>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds... >>>> >>>> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky >>>> business, >>>> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger >>>> demotivator. >>>> -- >>>> Bill Sloman, Sydney >>> >>> >>> The internal reality >>> >>> After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission >>> uncovered a huge gap: >>> >>> NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000 >>> (extremely optimistic) >>> >>> Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be >>> closer to 1 in 100 or even worse >>> >>> That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a >>> single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly >>> communicated to McAuliffe. >> >> McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the >> years. >> >>> She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most >>> realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from >>> the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the >>> time. >>> >>> That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money... >> >> Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies >> put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding >> disasters >> >>> But, it's okay to look the other way... >> >> It most certainly isn't >> >>> Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they >>> got mouths to feed. >> >> Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging >> impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns >> about safety get a lower priority. > > In 2 days you will write the opposite, but > it doesn't matter. What matters is that you're > a knight of The Shit of Einstein and you expect > some obedience. Right, trash? Posting the same abuse three or four times in succession, this time in a context where it really isn't relevant, is classic troll behavior. But - as an ignorant idiot - you don't know any better. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 11:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69BC4656.1060@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #670143 |
Bill Sloman wrote: > > On 19/03/2026 5:07 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > > Bill Sloman wrote: > >> > >> On 19/03/2026 5:07 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 18/03/2026 6:27 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 18/03/2026 4:34 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 7:14 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 17/03/2026 2:55 am, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/03/2026 3:42 pm, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2026 8:24 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.03.2026 um 12:29 schrieb Bill Sloman: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and isn't worth the effort until you have lots of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observations to make sense of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense. Your naive positivism is playing up again. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best counterexample: general relativity. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't based on any observation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, it was based on some madness of an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane crazy instead. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was about as sane as anybody could be. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I personally think, that Einstein was what I would call a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'disinformation agent'. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are free to think that. I wouldn't go around telling other people > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you think that - it would suggest that you had a rather poor > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grasp of reality > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely he wasn't even a Jew and a Swiss from birth. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of people were happy to claim him as being Jewish after he got > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Einstein wasn't actually a Jew, this would be a possible explanation > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for why he rejected the presidency of Israel, which was offered to him. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would have been quite dangerous, if he had actually accepted and would > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to prove his jewishness. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A much more likely explanation is that he didn't fancy becoming some > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of figurehead to be rolled out on ceremonial occasions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have distracted him from the scientific work that he kept on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh Yes, the scientific work that he kept on > >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing all his life was figuring out how to teleport a Navy war ship from > >>>>>>>>>>>>> one city to another city... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was working on...Quantum Teleportation. Called "The Einstein's > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuum of Spatio-Temporal" > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Einstein's continuum of spatio-temporal which enabled idea of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum teleportation, which represents technique of dematerialization > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the matter, in one location and 'faxing', namely, electronic > >>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission to quantum state on the other > >>>>>>>>>>>>> location, in order to be materialized there." > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (dematerialization in one location, and materialized on the other > >>>>>>>>>>>>> location). > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Niven described it better - as a science fiction author he had to. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Attributing it to Einstein seems to be pure invention. It didn't show up > >>>>>>>>>>>> in 1950's science fiction, and Einstein died in 1955. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Put simply, it would get you from here to there... > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You. or something that might look very like you. Transforming some 70kgm > >>>>>>>>>>>> of matter into energy and transforming it back to matter implies > >>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting great deal of energy. A hydrogen bomb transforms 0.7kgm of > >>>>>>>>>>>> mass into energy. Transforming the energy into exactly the right sort of > >>>>>>>>>>>> matter to exactly duplicate you might be tricky > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> "exactly duplicate", or making a copy is not how it works. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> It is simply a 'cut and paste'. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> You cut it from and paste it there. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Like on a computer.. > >>>>>>>>>>> you just highlight the whole folder with a blue light, then you, > >>>>>>>>>>> you...cut-and-paste it > >>>>>>>>>>> to your other hard drive and it reappears there! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Not copy and paste, cut and paste. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> A distinction without meaning. "Cut and paste" is just "copy and paste" > >>>>>>>>>> followed by "delete the original". Somebody with a very tight memory > >>>>>>>>>> budget might cut, paste and delete in very small chunks. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> You scan each atom > >>>>>>>>>>> delete it. and paste it there. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Which would mean that there would be a point where you'd have half a > >>>>>>>>>> person at each end of the link, both dead, unless you could complete the > >>>>>>>>>> process in less than a millisecond. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> spooky at a distance. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think Einstein didn't finish it? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Have you any evidence to suggest that Einstein even started on it? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, you gave us the evidence. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> You wrote: "It would have distracted him from the scientific work that > >>>>>>>>> he kept on doing all his life." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> You were referring to his Grand Unified Theory he was working on all his > >>>>>>>>> life. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> What do you think the Grand Unified Theory 'is'? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> It includes gravity as well as electromagnetism and the weak and strong > >>>>>>>> nuclear forces. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> In 'science jargon' it's: 'When a mass moves, the force acting on other > >>>>>>>>> masses had been considered to adjust instantaneously to the new location > >>>>>>>>> of the displaced mass.' > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> In other words... make a ship invisible and transport it to another > >>>>>>>>> place. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> You scan the atom (all the atoms) of the ship, delete it, and paste it > >>>>>>>>> another place. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Lovely if you could do it, but you probably need to invent a new > >>>>>>>> universe with new and different physical laws to make it possible > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> "The Office of Naval Research (ONR) has stated that the use of force > >>>>>>>>> fields to make a ship and her crew invisible does not conform to known > >>>>>>>>> physical laws. > >>>>>>>>> ONR also claims that Dr. Albert Einstein's Unified Field Theory was > >>>>>>>>> never completed. > >>>>>>>>> During 1943-1944, Einstein was a part-time consultant with the Navy's > >>>>>>>>> Bureau of Ordnance, undertaking theoretical research on explosives and > >>>>>>>>> explosions. " > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The Bureau of Ordance wanted a celebrity name to play with. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I think I have around somewhere a blackboard with all the math on it > >>>>>>>>> 'about getting from here to there' teleportation...celestial mechanics. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> but it is not finished... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Like a lot of other research projects. Mostly when you dig deep enough, > >>>>>>>> you find out that an idea is never going to work. If your success rate > >>>>>>>> is better than 30% you are going to get scooped by other researchers > >>>>>>>> uncomfortably often. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Good ideas have a nasty habit of striking different people in different > >>>>>>>> places at much the same time. A friend ended up making $A12 million out > >>>>>>>> of an idea he patented. Tektronix had applied for a provisional patent > >>>>>>>> six weeks earlier, but abandoned it without spending the much larger > >>>>>>>> sums that would have been required to register an actual patent. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's also not science fiction as you claim to be...\\ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It certainly is science fiction, which doesn't stop people having > >>>>>> half-baked ideas about using it in real life. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Using refined tools and long series of experiments, Anton Zeilinger started to use entangled quantum states. > >>>>>>> Among other things, his research group has demonstrated a phenomenon called quantum teleportation, which makes it possible to move a quantum state from one particle to one at a distance. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4ae20d8bd47daad1&hl=en&gbv=2&sxsrf=ANbL-n4iBGManDUb2_O74J964ltj7MZlqg%3A1773767645872&q=nobel+prize+quantum+telep > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A quantum state doesn't have any mass. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> The 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Alain Aspect, John F. Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger > >>>>>>> for their pioneering work on quantum entanglement, which laid the foundation for the field of quantum information science, including quantum teleportation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2022/press-release/#:~:text=Using%20refined%20tools%20and%20long,the%20Nobel%20Committee%20for%20Physics. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> and that 'blackboard' is Albert Einstein's promotion for...teleportation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2033817198998000030/photo/1 > > >>>>>>> 'beam me up, Scotty.' > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Since Scotty was always pixels on a screen, \it an illusion. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I notice you have a Scottish accent... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Via my wife I hung out with quite a few dialect experts. My accent is > >>>>>> educated Australian, slightly soften by 22 years living in England. One > >>>>>> work colleague - with whom I'm still in contact - is Scottish, but I > >>>>>> don't seem to have picked up his accent. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> are you slow? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My surname is a west country surname - there are more pages of Slomans > >>>>>> in the Taunton telephone directory than in the London telephone > >>>>>> directory - and it is a contraction of Sloughman, who was some who > >>>>>> farmed bottom land close to a river. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm not slow - both my parents had university degrees and I got a Ph.D. > >>>>>> All my nieces and nephews have been to university and graduated - one > >>>>>> now works for Google. My father's sister married a very clever vet, who > >>>>>> ended up with a D.Sc, and both their kids were professors at Adelaide > >>>>>> University for a bit. It isn't a high prestige school and both moved on > >>>>>> to better jobs. That is the clever branch of the family. My father's 25 > >>>>>> patents - I've only got three - instills a certain measure of humility. > >>> > >>> From slow +? man, a nickname for a sluggish person. > >> > >> Always corrupted into snowman. > >> > >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sloman > >>>>> Now I understand why teachers blow up in rocketships...the engineers > >>>>> don't understand physics. > >>>> > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster > >>> > >>>> The engineers has warned management, "but neither NASA nor the SRB > >>>> manufacturer Morton Thiokol had addressed this known defect. NASA > >>>> managers also disregarded engineers' warnings about the dangers of > >>>> launching in low temperatures and did not report these technical > >>>> concerns to their superiors." > >>>> > >>>> It was a management screw up. The engineers had done their jobs and > >>>> warned management, but management ignored them. It happens a lot. > >>> > >>> "It happens a lot."???? You mean, you look the other way. > >> > >> I was never management, though I got close. I later found out that my > >> refusal to waste time on pointless paper-shuffling counted against me. > >> > >>> then you take bets in the bathroom, will she live or die? > >> > >> It doesn't work like that. The managers worry about more important stuff > >> - pointless paper-shuffling. > >> > >>> I can bet on that today, can I? Kalshi. > >> > >> You can bet on anything you like. It's a character defect, but not yet a > >> crime. > >> > >>> no more bathroom bets. > >>> > >>> I bet she dies...I seen the engineers...too weak. > >> > >> That's built into the system. Engineers - like British scientists -have > >> to be on tap rather than on top. > >> > >>> You know, no one ever told the teacher what were the odds... > >> > >> They were well known. Going into space has always been a risky business, > >> but you do get a lot of publicity, which strikes as even stronger > >> demotivator. > >> -- > >> Bill Sloman, Sydney > > > > > > The internal reality > > > > After the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, the Rogers Commission > > uncovered a huge gap: > > > > NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000 > > (extremely optimistic) > > > > Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be > > closer to 1 in 100 or even worse > > > > That enormous mismatch shows that even within NASA, there wasn’t a > > single honest, agreed-upon number — so it certainly wasn’t clearly > > communicated to McAuliffe. > > McAuliffe could count. NASA had killed a number of astronauts over the > years. > > > She wasn’t told specific odds — and if she had been told the most > > realistic internal estimates, it might have sounded very different from > > the "safe routine flight" image the Shuttle program projected at the > > time. > > > > That teacher was murdered. NASA needed the money... > > Don't be silly. They sincerely didn't want her dead, but bureaucracies > put a lot more emphasis on meeting schedules than they do on avoiding > disasters > > > But, it's okay to look the other way... > > It most certainly isn't > > > Every time they send a rocket up...everybody looks the other way...they > > got mouths to feed. > > Far from it. But when the whole organisation is focussed on staging > impressive events and getting them to happen when promised, concerns > about safety get a lower priority. dats wat i said...you look the other way. Look at the numbers: NASA management often cited failure odds around 1 in 100,000 Engineers and some contractors believed the real risk could be closer to 1 in 100 or even worse They told the teacher..."safe routine flight". I would call it...'human error'. She trusted you guys. They told her, "Don't worry, it's safe...get your fat ass in dat washing machine, you stupid bitch!" You people are soooo stupid. NASA shows you a picture of a 'blurred hole' and call it a black hole. And you don't investigate why the picture is a blurred hole. NASA will tell you..."OH, dats the way it came out!" When I first saw the photograph..i need to sharpen it! It's BLURRY! Since I'm an expert in sharpening photos, I can now see what it REALLY looks like. https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696 https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/1 https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1120048519715229696/photo/2 If you show this photo to Ai, (don't metioned it's suppose to be a black hole) and ask "In what direction are the gravitional waves moving, inward or outward?" Ai will say, "Outward!" That means everything is escaping a black hole. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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