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Re: ww3

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: ww3
Date 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
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Am Freitag000010, 10.01.2025 um 05:51 schrieb Physfitfreak:
> On 1/8/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Dienstag000007, 07.01.2025 um 09:05 schrieb Siri Cruise:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case 
>>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.
>>>
>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>
>>
>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>
>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>>
>> I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on 
>> the Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a 
>> single button.
>>
>> TH
> 
> 
> Navy ships are getting obsolete too. No carrier or warship has any real 
> defense against "Hoot" type torpedoes carrying small nuclear warheads. 
> They cannot be intercepted. They're too fast, as fast as missiles but 
> inside water!
> 
> If it was not for Iranians' Hoot torpedoes, USA had attempted 100 times 
> to invade Iran's southern shores. They know they cannot do it, and 
> that's why it never happened.
> 
> That means warships are these days just means to eat up your tax money. 
> They don't have much war value.

I would guess, that Russia has already means to destroy US-carriers from 
within Turkey or Syria and while they are still passing through the 
Dardanelles.

It is therefor almost impossible to enter with US carriers into the 
Black Sea.

And without carriers, the Nato has no good options for a starting 
position of fighter jets in a conflict with Russia.

In the end, the Crimean peninsula is essential for Russian defense. 
That's why Russia will not give up the Krim and for no price.

This in turn would make it impossible for the Ukraine to win in any 
meaningful way.

TH

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