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Re: ww3

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: ww3
Date 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
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Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:38 schrieb Governor Swill:

>>>> The Russians have a good strategic position in that conflict and the
>>>> Nato has a terrible one.
>>>
>>> NATO has no position. It is not fighting.
>>>
>>
>> Well, we have actually a 'proxy war', which is seemingly financed by
>> western powers and maintained by Ukrainians and Russians (plus solders
>> of fortune from various countries).
>>
>> Now the Russians are the dominant power in this conflict, because
>> Russian military is many times stronger that the Ukrainian.
> 
> BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Is that why Putin's two week 'speshul operashun'
> has been dragging in for three years?  Is that why he's reinforcing his lines
> with North Korean troops who barely know which end of the gun to hold let alone
> what to aim at?
> 
> "Russian paramilitary soldiers killed in friendly fire attack by North Koreans
> after enlisting DPRK help"
> <https://nypost.com/2024/12/16/world-news/russian-paramilitary-soldiers-killed-in-friendly-fire-attack-by-north-koreans-after-enlisting-dprk-help/>
> 
>> This will not change in the immediate future, if no Nato troops would
>> engage into that conflict, too.
> 
> Ukraine is proving you don't need NATO troops, you just need superior western
> weapons.
> 
>> I was writing about the hypothetical possibility, that this could happen.
>>
>> In THAT case Nato forces would need to reach the front line in the
>> eastern  Ukraine somehow.
> 
> Airplanes, trains, trucks or they could just open a few new fronts in Finland,
> Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.  Embargo all Russian sea traffic from the
> Baltic to the Pacific.  The French Navy alone is stronger than Russia's!
> 
> Only an idiot would expect NATO to lose to Russia.


The Russians are not attacking the NATO.

Now the Russians have dug defense lines and wait there for western troops.

Such western troops would need to attack these entrenched forces, hence 
Russians defend and Nato had to win an attack, supposed they wanted to 
do that.

But the expectacions are rather chilling, since the Russians are already 
there and have dug themselves in and wait.

This is a VERY unfortunate situation, supposed the Nato wanted to push 
the Russians out of weatern Ukraine.


Difficult is, that Russia has all sorts of armour already in place, 
while Nato had to bring its gear half around the globe.

This is extremely dangerous, because Russian controlled territory 
surrounds the possible 'arena' in the eastern Ukraine.

This would enable the Russians to encircle large parts of a western 
chorps there (kind of 'New Stalingrad').

The only real advantage of the west are far reaching drones and missiles.

But these cannot conquer a country, only damage it.

That's why ground forces are necessary.


>> I meant, that Russian missiles, submarines,
> 
> You mean their convertibles?  LOL!  The Russian Navy is another joke.  Perhaps
> the biggest military joke on the planet.  And their missiles don't work.
> 
>> mines and other weapons
>> could easily destroy US carriers and other ships, once they try to come
>> through the Bosporous.
> 
> LOL!  The Russian Navy is hiding in the Sea of Azov and dares not come into the
> Black Sea.  Turkey and Romania have already neutralized Russians attempts to
> mine Ukraine's trade routes.


Sure.

But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case 
there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.

...


TH

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  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
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            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
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                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
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                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
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                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
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                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
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                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
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                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
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                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
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                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
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                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
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                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
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                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
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                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
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                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
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                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
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                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
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                Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
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                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
                Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
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