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Re: ww3

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: ww3
Date 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
Organization The Starmaker Organization
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Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Governor Swill:
> 
> >>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case
> >>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.
> >>>
> >>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
> >>
> >> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
> >
> > Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now.
> 
> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
> 
> Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything
> similar might happen again.
> 
> Actually German have more a tendency to cooperate with Russia if
> possible and do not really want to 'kick asses'.
> 
> The country most Germans dislike in this conflict is actually the Ukraine.
> 
> This is so, because the Ukraine was regarded as one of the most corrupt
> countries on this planet and essentially ruled by the mob.
> 
> At least I think so. The reason is, that I have lived some time together
> with a lady from Lvow, who was sold by the mob to a German for several
> thousand dollars.
> 
> This why I think about this country as the pinnacle of failure of states.
> >
> >> I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on the
> >> Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a single
> >> button.
> >
> > More likely they'll explode in their silos - if anybody can remember which
> > button to push.
> 
> Possible, but highly unlikely.
> 
> As far as I can tell, the Russians know how to handle their arms.
> 
> TH

Lets not forget the Russians were the first to send a man in space.



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ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
    Re: ww2 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
  Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
    Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
          Re: ww3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
          Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
          Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
              Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
                Re: ww3 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
                Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
                Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
                Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-20 14:26 +0100
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-21 07:46 +0100
                Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-22 09:19 +0100
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-23 11:54 +0100
                Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-23 14:12 +0100
                Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-23 22:15 +0100
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 14:15 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-24 09:01 +0100
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 10:35 -0800
                Re: ww3 Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-24 20:49 +0100
                Re: ww3 nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-25 10:29 +0100
                Re: ww3 Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:01 +0000
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-25 12:14 -0800
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
                Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
                Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:16 -0600
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:18 -0500
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:22 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:12 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:11 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:00 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:50 -0800
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:51 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:39 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:45 -0800
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 23:02 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:03 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:08 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:11 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:13 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:41 -0800
                Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 07:04 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:51 -0500
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 13:33 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:05 -0500
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 20:56 -0800
                Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-19 20:49 -0800
                Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:25 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
                Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:18 -0700
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:44 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:56 -0500
                Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
                Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0700
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 23:06 -0800
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-13 10:46 +0000
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:11 -0500
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 02:23 +0000
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:09 -0500
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000
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                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000
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                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000
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                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800
                Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600
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                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:50 -0800
                Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0800
                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:11 -0800
                Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:12 -0700
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:00 -0500
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                Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:10 -0700
                Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:15 -0700
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:45 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:47 -0800
                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:58 -0500
      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-22 05:39 +0000
            Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 02:50 -0600
  Re: ww3 patdolan@comcast.net (patdolan) - 2025-01-19 03:01 +0000
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      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800

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