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Re: ...all those Science guys

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: ...all those Science guys
Date	2022-06-23 08:36 +0200
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Am 22.06.2022 um 06:44 schrieb Thomas Heger:

>>> Einstein was actually a Swiss citizen.
>>
>> Yes, but not a Swiss.
>> He opted for Swiss nationality to avoid the German military service.
>> (Einstein was a pacifist all his life)

I would think, that Einstein's CV was a fake.

E.g. the only person he mentioned in SRT was his friend Michele Besso, 
who was an Italian.

Also his family lived in Pavia and the Jesuit-college next door writes, 
he lived there several years, too.

But in this case he would have been italian (or possibly Swiss) from 
birth or shortly afterwards and his German history was a fake.

(Possibly he wasn't even Jewish.)

>>> And the Swiss Germans try to evade similarities to Germans in other
>>> countries by creating a somehow different German.
>>
>> That is a very strange idea.
>> Actually Schwyzerdütsch and Alsatian and some southern German dialects
>> are remnants of a lanuguage originally spoken in those regions.
>
>
> The modern German is an offspring of an old-German, which was a language
> widely spoken in Europe.
>
> The Swiss German is actually a relatively modern German, but the Swiss
> try to make it more seperate from the German in Germany, while the
> Germans in Germany want to unite the German and create a form, which is
> called 'high-German' in Germany.
>
> But in fact these are all dialects of the same language, which was
> widely spoken throughout Europe in medieaval times.
>
> Because Germany as a country is extremly young (only 150 years) and
> composed from a number of tiny kingdoms and dutchies, we have also very
> local dialects, that stem from these formerly seperate states.
>
> Now the Swiss, Bavarians and Austrians were more or less the same
> people, but united into different nations, they have also different
> dialects.
>

In the USA everything older than the first settlers is regarded as antique.

But in Europe they have a different timespan. People at the same time 
were mainly peasants, who could in most cases neither read nor write.

Politics was not their business and they often didn't even notice, if 
the local authorities changed due to a won or lost war.

Therefore, the idea of a nation was almost entirely alien to the lower 
classes in the rural areas of these countries.

That had changed much later and with the creation of nations like 
Austria, Italy, Swiss or Germany. Then came the wish for a national 
identity and an associated language. But because farmers stayed, even if 
the nation changed, they spoke mainly very local dialects and didn't 
care about the high-level language of the nation.

Now these national languages were created as kind of high level 
dialects, which were based on the local dialects of the people within 
that nation.

And with intensifying the national identity, these 'national-dialects' 
were also becomming more pronounced, while the internal differences 
vanished.

...

TH

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...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-09 22:37 -0700
  Re: ...all those Science guys patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-06-09 23:44 -0700
    Re: ...all those Science guys Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-09 23:58 -0700
  Re: ...all those Science guys Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-10 00:05 -0700
    Re: ...all those Science guys Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-10 00:08 -0700
      Re: ...all those Science guys Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-10 00:11 -0700
        Re: ...all those Science guys Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-10 00:18 -0700
          Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-10 10:44 -0700
    Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-10 11:08 -0700
      Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-11 11:19 -0700
        Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-12 09:37 +0200
          Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-14 10:31 -0700
            Re: ...all those Science guys Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-14 10:38 -0700
              Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-14 11:17 -0700
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-18 18:06 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Python <python@python.invalid> - 2022-06-18 18:43 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-18 09:52 -0700
                Re: ...all those Science guys Python <python@python.invalid> - 2022-06-18 20:38 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-18 12:16 -0700
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-19 07:36 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Python <python@python.invalid> - 2022-06-19 08:16 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-20 07:44 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-21 06:58 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-21 22:36 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-21 15:13 -0700
                Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-24 11:36 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-25 20:30 -0700
                Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-26 11:22 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-26 21:29 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-22 06:44 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-23 08:36 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-24 20:07 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-26 06:48 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-26 01:19 -0400
                Re: ...all those Science guys Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-25 22:38 -0700
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-26 21:10 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-26 11:22 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-26 03:12 -0700
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-26 21:22 +0200
  Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-10 09:42 +0200
    Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-25 08:49 +0200
  Re: ...all those Science guys Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-06-10 14:35 +0200
    Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-10 15:55 +0200
      Re: ...all those Science guys patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-06-10 09:05 -0700
        Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-15 11:24 +0200
          Re: ...all those Science guys Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-06-15 11:35 +0200
            Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-15 15:00 -0700
            Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-16 12:26 +0200
  Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-11 06:37 +0200
    Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-11 12:12 -0700
      Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-12 07:45 +0200
    Re: ...all those Science guys Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-11 17:37 -0400
      Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-11 15:48 -0700
        Re: ...all those Science guys Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-13 13:04 -0400
          Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-14 08:23 +0200
            Re: ...all those Science guys Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-14 11:03 -0400
              Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-14 10:28 -0700
              Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-14 20:27 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-15 12:29 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-15 12:04 -0400
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-16 07:59 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-16 08:04 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-17 18:54 -0400
                Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-18 00:42 -0700
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-18 15:06 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-16 12:26 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-16 08:30 -0700
                Re: ...all those Science guys Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-06-17 08:38 +0200
                Re: ...all those Science guys Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-06-17 00:18 -0700
            Re: ...all those Science guys The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-15 15:12 -0700
      Re: ...all those Science guys RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-13 11:45 -0700
        Re: ...all those Science guys nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-14 13:08 +0200

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