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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math |
| Subject | Re: ? ? ? |
| Date | 2024-04-02 09:52 -0700 |
| Organization | To protect and to server |
| Message-ID | <660C37CE.3209@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
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the fact is...there is no devise on earth that can detect ...time. The Starmaker wrote: > > ok, a sundial is for dialing the sun. > > "Hi Sun, where are you?" > > "Well, at 12:pm I was here and it's now 3:pm so I'm over here. > > a sundial is for making phone calls to the Sun. > > "I'm over here now." > > You know, you make a phonecall and you ask your girlfriend "Where are > you at?" > > She says, "I'm over here!" > > You say, "When are you coming over here?" > > She sez..."I'll be there by sundown." > > Now you gotta call the sun... > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Wait a minute, wait a minute...are > > you trying to tell > > me that a sundial is only a devise > > that ...follows the sun? > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > I mean, come on..let's be real here... > > > > > > a clock does not detect time > > > > > > it doesn't even measure the flow of time > > > > > > or the direction of time > > > > > > or the arrow of time > > > > > > (or which way is it going?) > > > > > > okay, i got the bow of time, which > > > way am i pointing the arrow of time? > > > > > > just follow the arrow. > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova: > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> the Entropy ð—œð—¦ time. Please stop ð—»ð—¼ð˜ undrestanding tensors. Look at > > > > > > > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution. > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started > > > > > > > > > > >>> talking about entropy. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways: > > > > > > > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection) > > > > > > > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction) > > > > > > > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always > > > > > > > > > > >> transported by radiation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply > > > > > > > > > a mechanical shadow... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that > > > > > > > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told > > > > > > > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The clock is displaying...shadows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Math are shadows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're prisoners of shadows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathematical objects are shadows... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave the cave... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave the matrix.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on > > > > > > > > sundials... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!" > > > > > > > > > > > > I mean, I just don't understand... > > > > > > > > > > > > Plato looks at the shadows and > > > > > > says those shadows are not reality, > > > > > > while he sees everyone using the shadows > > > > > > on sundials for measuring Time. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other side of his mouth he > > > > > > claims NUMBERS are real physical objects. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers! > > > > > > > > > > > > Are the numbers real and the shadows not.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or are the shadows real and the numbers not... > > > > > > > > > > > > or are the shadows and numbers are real? > > > > > > > > > > > > The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > Numbers don't exist out there.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and the shadows are not physical objects. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, shadows tell you the time? > > > > > > > > > > > > Those hands on the clock are > > > > > > mechanical shadows.. > > > > > > > > > > > > yous still using sundials > > > > > > to measure time with shadows... > > > > > > > > > > > > and imaginary numbers. > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on > > > > > > sundials...' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, you take the clock apart.. > > > > > > > > > > first you remove the mechanical shadows > > > > > what you call hands on the clock > > > > > actually high tech shadows... > > > > > > > > > > then you remove the numbers from > > > > > the face of the clock... > > > > > numbers don't exist out there.. > > > > > > > > > > Now what? You take apart the > > > > > actusl cover and what do you see... > > > > > > > > > > a Machine! > > > > > > > > > > No different than removing > > > > > that warm smile from a > > > > > womans' face and seeing behind it.. > > > > > > > > > > a Machine! > > > > > > > > > > The clock and the woman > > > > > are illusions. > > > > > > > > > > 'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad. > > > > > > > > > > So, what is measuring Time? Illusions?? > > > > > > > > > > Is Time an illusion too! > > > > > > > > > > It's just the Sun's shadow. > > > > > > > > > > Does the shadow...tick? > > > > > > > > > > Does the shadow make sudden > > > > > tik tok movements? > > > > > > > > Keep in mind, I understand you > > > > need these illusions to survive.. > > > > you need the shadows > > > > the imaginary numbers > > > > and especially.. > > > > her warm smile... > > > > > > > > otherwise you would be > > > > seeing not her..but a monster. > > > > > > > > But don't tell me the > > > > universe is mathematical, because > > > > you insult my intelligence. > > > > > > > > Buy her some lipstick. > > > > > > > > Tell her how pretty she looks > > > > while she mocks you with her smile. > > > > > > > > She is just a ...machine. > > > > (with lipstick) > > > > > > > > Machines need illusions too! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > > and challenge the unchallengeable. > > > > > > -- > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > and challenge the unchallengeable. > > > > -- > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > and challenge the unchallengeable. > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > and challenge the unchallengeable. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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