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Wait a minute, wait a minute...are 
you trying to tell
me that a sundial is only a devise
that ...follows the sun?





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> I mean, come on..let's be real here...
> 
> a clock does not detect time
> 
> it doesn't even measure the flow of time
> 
> or the direction of time
> 
> or the arrow of time
> 
> (or which way is it going?)
> 
> okay, i got the bow of time, which
> way am i pointing the arrow of time?
> 
> just follow the arrow.
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova:
> > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>> the Entropy 𝗜𝗦 time. Please stop 𝗻𝗼𝘁 undrestanding tensors. Look at
> > > > > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal.
> > > > > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started
> > > > > > > > >>> talking about entropy.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways:
> > > > > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection)
> > > > > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction)
> > > > > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always
> > > > > > > > >> transported by radiation.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > TH
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply
> > > > > > > a mechanical shadow...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that
> > > > > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told
> > > > > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The clock is displaying...shadows.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Math are shadows.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're prisoners of shadows.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mathematical objects are shadows...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > leave the cave...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > leave the matrix..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > > > > sundials...
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!"
> > > >
> > > > I mean, I just don't understand...
> > > >
> > > > Plato looks at the shadows and
> > > > says those shadows are not reality,
> > > > while he sees everyone using the shadows
> > > > on sundials for measuring Time.
> > > >
> > > > On the other side of his mouth he
> > > > claims NUMBERS are real physical objects.
> > > >
> > > > The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers!
> > > >
> > > > Are the numbers real and the shadows not..
> > > >
> > > > Or are the shadows real and the numbers not...
> > > >
> > > > or are the shadows and numbers are real?
> > > >
> > > > The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer.
> > > >
> > > > Numbers don't exist out there..
> > > >
> > > > and the shadows are not physical objects.
> > > >
> > > > So, shadows tell you the time?
> > > >
> > > > Those hands on the clock are
> > > > mechanical shadows..
> > > >
> > > > yous still using sundials
> > > > to measure time with shadows...
> > > >
> > > > and imaginary numbers.
> > > >
> > > > YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!!
> > > >
> > > > 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on
> > > >  sundials...'
> > > >
> > >
> > > Now, you take the clock apart..
> > >
> > > first you remove the mechanical shadows
> > > what you call hands on the clock
> > > actually high tech shadows...
> > >
> > > then you remove the numbers from
> > > the face of the clock...
> > > numbers don't exist out there..
> > >
> > > Now what? You take apart the
> > > actusl cover and what do you see...
> > >
> > > a Machine!
> > >
> > > No different than removing
> > > that warm smile from a
> > > womans' face and seeing behind it..
> > >
> > > a Machine!
> > >
> > > The clock and the woman
> > > are illusions.
> > >
> > > 'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad.
> > >
> > > So, what is measuring Time? Illusions??
> > >
> > > Is Time an illusion too!
> > >
> > > It's just the Sun's shadow.
> > >
> > > Does the shadow...tick?
> > >
> > > Does the shadow make sudden
> > > tik tok movements?
> >
> > Keep in mind, I understand you
> > need these illusions to survive..
> > you need the shadows
> > the imaginary numbers
> > and especially..
> > her warm smile...
> >
> > otherwise you would be
> > seeing not her..but a monster.
> >
> > But don't tell me the
> > universe is mathematical, because
> > you insult my intelligence.
> >
> > Buy her some lipstick.
> >
> > Tell her how pretty she looks
> > while she mocks you with her smile.
> >
> > She is just a ...machine.
> > (with lipstick)
> >
> > Machines need illusions too!
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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