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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: energy and mass |
| Date | 2026-02-14 11:17 +0100 |
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Am Freitag000013, 13.02.2026 um 18:41 schrieb Bill Sloman: > On 13/02/2026 8:03 pm, Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am Donnerstag000012, 12.02.2026 um 10:39 schrieb Martin Brown: >> ... >>>>>> I've been to physics meetings that shocked me with their brutality. >>>>>> That mentality is terrible for brainstorming and inventing things. >>>>> >>>>> They are professionals amongst themselves. They can take it. >>>>> Brutality is what keeps the brainstorming in check, >>>> >>>> For sure. >>> >>> Physicists have heard all of the deranged objections to Einsteins >>> theory of relativity and general relativity so many times before that >>> they are not inclined to give any quarter to hand waving wannabes >>> like you. >>> >> >> Most of these objections came actually from physicists. >> >> E.g. there was a physics professor with some reputation named Herbert >> Dingle, who wrote 'Science at the crossroads'. >> >> I personally have analyzed Einstein's 'On the electrodynamics of >> moving bodies' of 1905 and found, that it contains roughly four- >> hundred errors. >> >> That particular article violated all known rules for scientific papers >> and contains about 100 serious(!) errors in all possible circumstances. > > Max Planck didn't bother to send it out for peer-review. Sure. But I have not fully understood this fact, because Planck was definitely able to see the errors in that paper. This would lead to assume some sort of 'social engineering', which forced Planck accept, what his disliked. We can actually see this in many photo's of Einstein, when he participated any conference or meeting: Einstein sat in most cases right in the center and in the first line. e.g. this one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Solvay_conference_1927.jpg/1280px-Solvay_conference_1927.jpg This position is, subconsciously, perceived as 'importance'. But Einstein wasn't a good physicist at all. So, what forces allowed Einstein to smuggle himself in the best place on many pictures??? It must be kind of hidden power, which Einstein had, that had nothing at all to do with physics. > >> IOW: this particular article is total crap. > > Except that it isn't. It didn't get cleaned up by careful peer-review > because it was already quite impressive enough to get Max Planck's > attention as it stood. Sure, but 'peer reviewed crap'. ... TH
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Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-19 21:41 +0100
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Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-22 20:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 17:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 22:50 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 23:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 08:54 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 18:04 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 00:38 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 12:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 02:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 23:35 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 05:08 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-21 12:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 15:52 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-22 20:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 11:46 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 17:30 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 12:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 23:58 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 21:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 22:16 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 18:12 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-24 12:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-25 00:09 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 15:56 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 22:03 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 22:12 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 00:08 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 05:40 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 15:58 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 23:25 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-22 11:25 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 02:55 +1100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 00:01 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-21 12:46 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-22 16:06 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-22 11:25 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 03:20 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.invalid (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-22 22:38 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 14:10 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 17:46 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 23:12 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 23:26 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-23 17:40 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 22:53 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 12:28 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 00:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-02-20 20:09 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 11:21 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-21 16:16 +0100
Cardinalities of sets (was: energy and mass) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-21 16:16 +0100
Re: Cardinalities of sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 08:14 -0800
Re: Cardinalities of sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 08:30 -0800
Re: Cardinalities of sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 08:51 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-20 21:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 18:48 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-21 11:19 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 04:52 -0800
Re: energy and mass "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-02-23 14:36 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 03:57 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 09:08 -0800
Re: energy and mass liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-23 18:16 +0000
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 21:49 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 22:28 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 18:15 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 00:42 -0800
Re: energy and mass liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-24 09:31 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 22:21 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-23 21:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-24 18:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-23 23:33 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-20 08:29 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-17 23:28 +1100
Re: energy and mass liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-14 10:19 +0000
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-18 02:51 +0000
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-02-18 09:53 +0100
Re: energy and mass liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-20 15:12 +0000
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-20 09:05 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 05:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-20 19:27 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-21 16:55 +1100
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-11 19:17 +0000
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-11 23:09 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-11 14:11 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-12 11:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-12 08:43 -0800
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-12 09:41 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 11:27 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-13 10:14 -0800
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-11 14:39 -0800
Re: energy and mass Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> - 2026-02-12 09:39 +0000
Re: energy and mass Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-02-12 13:42 +0000
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-12 16:20 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 04:10 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 23:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-13 15:15 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-18 21:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-12 07:38 -0800
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-12 08:21 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 04:26 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-13 10:00 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 15:27 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 23:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-12 19:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-12 11:11 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-12 22:29 +0100
Re: energy and mass Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2026-02-14 18:59 -0500
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 04:19 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-13 10:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 11:59 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 04:41 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-13 20:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 15:22 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 23:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-14 11:17 +0100
Re: energy and mass Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-02-14 10:20 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 23:11 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-14 14:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-15 10:07 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-15 23:44 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-15 07:34 -0800
Re: energy and mass "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-02-15 18:41 +0000
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-15 13:18 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-15 21:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-17 10:16 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-17 23:41 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-02-18 16:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-19 03:38 +1100
Re: energy and mass athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-17 16:45 +0000
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-17 09:04 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-17 22:31 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-17 14:56 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-18 10:37 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-18 07:35 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-19 03:49 +1100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-18 09:00 -0800
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-02-18 18:35 +0100
Re: energy and mass Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2026-02-18 12:58 -0500
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-18 11:10 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-19 21:09 +1100
Re: energy and mass liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-02-19 14:00 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-20 03:11 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-12 11:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 04:01 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 23:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-13 15:24 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 15:39 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-11 17:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-12 14:55 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-12 14:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-12 07:43 -0800
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-12 16:23 +0000
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-12 08:44 -0800
Re: energy and mass Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2026-02-12 12:12 -0500
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-12 17:15 +0000
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-13 13:45 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 05:12 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-13 20:26 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-12 22:08 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-12 22:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-13 00:33 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-12 19:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-12 11:04 -0800
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-12 19:22 +0000
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-12 20:16 +0000
Re: energy and mass DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com> - 2026-02-12 15:50 -0500
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-12 21:29 +0000
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-13 01:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com> - 2026-02-12 20:59 -0500
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-13 03:15 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 11:27 +0100
Re: energy and mass DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com> - 2026-02-13 10:09 -0500
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-13 17:39 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-13 23:40 +0100
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-13 10:29 +0000
Re: energy and mass DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com> - 2026-02-13 10:21 -0500
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-13 17:34 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-12 23:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-12 23:27 +0100
Re: energy and mass The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-02-12 11:28 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-12 22:29 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 05:22 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-13 19:58 +0100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-13 09:50 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-12 22:03 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-12 23:12 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 05:34 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-13 20:35 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 16:05 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-14 22:57 +0100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-14 21:59 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-15 17:50 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-15 12:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-15 23:51 +1100
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-15 21:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-15 08:13 -0800
Re: energy and mass nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-15 21:48 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-15 13:11 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 05:00 +1100
Re: energy and mass Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-02-13 10:19 -0800
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 03:17 +1100
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-13 16:20 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-14 07:20 +1100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-14 03:31 +0100
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-02-13 21:50 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-13 15:03 -0800
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-13 23:35 +0000
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-02-14 10:47 +0100
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-14 15:21 +0100
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-14 07:58 -0800
Re: energy and mass john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-02-14 07:54 -0800
Re: energy and mass Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-02-14 18:01 +0100
Re: energy and mass Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-02-14 20:52 +0100
Re: energy and mass ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-15 17:20 +0000
Re: energy and mass Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-02-16 13:08 +1100
Re: energy and mass x <x@x.net> - 2026-02-14 15:38 -0800
Re: energy and mass Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-02-14 03:36 +0100
Re: usenet weirdness Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> - 2026-02-10 22:06 +0000
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