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Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'

From Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de>
Newsgroups de.sci.physik
Subject Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'
Date 2020-12-01 22:00 +0100
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Kurt schrieb:
> Am 30.11.2020 um 21:52 schrieb Dieter Heidorn:
>
> Bist du unfähig eine dir mehrmals gestellte, absolut eindeutige Frage
> klar zu beantworten?
>
> Hat das was du geschrieben hast:
> ---------------------------------------
> * Wenn unterschiedliche Beobachter sich mit verschiedenen Relativ-
>   geschwindigkeiten zu einer Uhr (U2) bewegen,
>   dann sind die unterschiedlichen Beobachter auch relativ zueinander
>   mit unterschiedlichen Relativgeschwindigkeiten bewegt.
>
> * Folglich haben ihre Mess-Uhren verschiedene Relativgeschwindigkeiten
>   zueinander, und weisen unterschiedliche Gänge auf.
>
> * Wenn der Gang der Uhr (U2) von den Mess-Uhren der verschiedenen
>   Beobachter beurteilt wird, dann führen die verschiedenen Beobachter
>   diese U2-Gangbestimmung also mit Mess-Uhren durch, die relativ
>   zueinander unterschiedlich gehen.
>
> * Damit ist es selbstverständlich, dass die verschiedenen Beobachter
>   den Gang der U2 auch unterschiedlich beurteilen, d.h. unterschied-
>   liche Gangänderungen feststellen.
> ----------------------------------------
>
> irgendeinen Einfluss auf den Gang der U2?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hat es einen Einfluss auf den Gang der U2
> Ja oder nein?
>

Deine Frage beruht auf dem Hintergrund deiner unsinnigen Grundannahme
vom "Nullbezug Erde", für die immer noch ein Beleg fehlt.

Ich antworte so wie bisher auf der Grundlage der RT, also einer
experimentell bestätigten Theorie:

* Durch Bewegung allein werden die inneren Abläufe in einer Uhr nicht
   physikalisch verändert. In diesem Sinne beeinflusst Bewegung nicht
   den Gang einer Uhr.

* Durch Bewegung einer Uhr relativ zu einem Beobachter tritt Zeit-
   dilatation auf: Der Gang der bewegten Uhr ist gegenüber den im
   Inertialsystem S des Beobachters ruhenden Mess-Uhren verlangsamt.
   Bei geradliniger Bewegung der Uhr mit konstanter Geschwindigkeit v_U
   lautet der Zusammenhang:

      t_Uhr = sqrt(1 - (v_U/c)^2) * t_S

   In diesem Sinne könnte man von einer "Beeinflussung des Ganges" der
   Uhr durch Bewegung sprechen - sollte man aber nicht, da es miss-
   verständlich ist. Mit dem Begriff der Zeitdilatation ist bereits
   alles gesagt.

> Es ist halt so das der Gang der U2 durch nichts und niemanden, egal wo
> der Beobachter auch sitzen oder liegen mag, und durch keine
> Bezugssystemdeklaration beeinflusst wird.
>

Den Unfug hat außer dir niemand behauptet. Das ist nur dein Miss-
verständnis oder deine Fehlinterpretation.

Dein Missverständnis beruht auch darauf, dass du von "Bezugssystem"
in deinem Sinne von "Null-Bezug" (Erde) redest. Ich verwende den
Begriff "Bezugssystem" dagegen im allgemein üblichen Sinne:

Ein Bezugssystem ist ein Koordinatensystem, z.B. ein kartesisches KS,
in dem
1. Ortskoordinaten definiert sind, sodass z.B. Abstände und Längen
    gemessen werden können,
2. die Zeit t mit geeigneten Uhren gemessen werden kann.

Das bedeutet dann:

Nicht die Tatsache, dass ein "Bezugssystem deklariert" wird oder dass
ein Beobachter mit Mess-Uhren vorhanden ist, bewirkt Änderungen im Gang
einer bewegten Uhr. Der Grund für diese Änderungen liegt darin, dass in
verschiedenen Bezugssystemen die unterschiedliche Relativbewegung einer
bewegten Uhr gegenüber den in den BS ruhenden Mess-Uhren zu unter-
schiedlichen Zeitdilatationen führt.

> Die U2 taktet so wie es dir Ortsfaktoren hergeben
>

Was sind "Ortsfaktoren"?

> und wie ihr
> Bewegungszustand gegen den lokalen Bezug es eben auch noch hergibt.
>

Der "lokale Bezug" ist eine wirre Phantasie von dir. Den gibt es nicht.
Und bis jetzt hast du immer noch keinen Beleg für deine Vorstellung
vorgelegt. Kommt da noch einmal etwas?

> Es ist deine eigene Aussage das der Gang der U2 weder durch eine
> Bezugsdeklaration
> noch durch irgendwelche Beobachter beeinflusst wird.
>

Nein.

Was ich zur "Beeinflussung" des Ganges einer Uhr immer gesagt habe,
habe ich gerade oben noch einmal knapp zusammengefasst:

Nicht die Tatsache, dass ein "Bezugssystem deklariert" wird oder dass
ein Beobachter mit Mess-Uhren vorhanden ist, bewirkt Änderungen im Gang
einer bewegten Uhr. Der Grund für diese Änderungen liegt darin, dass in
verschiedenen Bezugssystemen die unterschiedliche Relativbewegung einer
bewegten Uhr gegenüber den in den BS ruhenden Mess-Uhren zu unter-
schiedlichen Zeitdilatationen führt.

Und du behauptest, die RT verstanden zu haben...

>>   "* Wenn der Gang der Uhr (U2) von den Mess-Uhren der verschiedenen
>>      Beobachter beurteilt wird, dann führen die verschiedenen
>>      Beobachter diese U2-Gangbestimmung also mit Mess-Uhren durch, die
>>      relativ zueinander unterschiedlich gehen.
>
> Da stand *Wenn*
>
> Wird aber _nicht_, es gibt keine Messuhren!!!!
> Es gibt auch keine Beobachter.
>

Bei dir nicht - bei mir schon.

Was du nicht begreifst, ist:
Ich schreibe mit meinen vier Punkten, die du oben zitiert hast, nicht
über deine Anordnung, sondern über einen eigenen Entwurf - und ich
verwende nun einmal geeignete Mess-Uhren und Beobachter.

Ob dir das nun passt oder nicht, ist ohne Bedeutung.
Geh' sachlich darauf ein oder drücke dich weiterhin - das wäre dann
auch eine eindeutige Aussage von dir...


Dieter Heidorn

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  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-01 19:27 +0100
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-01 19:33 +0100
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-22 23:06 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 09:02 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 12:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 12:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 13:06 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 13:13 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 13:27 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 13:36 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 14:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 14:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 15:35 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 18:09 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-23 18:15 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 19:05 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 19:31 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 20:05 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 20:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-23 20:21 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 20:39 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 21:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 21:12 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 21:28 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 21:37 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 21:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 21:53 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:00 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:07 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:16 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:22 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:37 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:45 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:50 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-24 03:12 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 22:03 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 23:22 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 22:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 22:30 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-26 22:13 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-26 23:39 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-27 22:16 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-27 22:36 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-28 21:55 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-28 22:00 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-29 22:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-29 22:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-30 01:21 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 21:53 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 22:54 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-30 23:45 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-12-01 15:54 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 16:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-01 16:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 22:00 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 22:23 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-02 03:44 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-02 21:53 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-02 22:24 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-03 21:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-03 22:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-03 22:37 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-03 22:59 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-04 08:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-04 11:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-04 12:07 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-04 12:26 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-04 13:31 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-04 13:33 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-04 16:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-04 18:24 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Toni White <toni56102@gmail.com> - 2020-12-04 12:31 -0800
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-05 10:37 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-05 11:08 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Toni White <toni56102@gmail.com> - 2020-12-05 02:19 -0800
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-05 12:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-05 12:59 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-05 15:22 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-05 21:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-06 09:09 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 00:10 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-07 00:24 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 00:38 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-07 08:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 10:16 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-04 21:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-04 22:13 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-05 22:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-05 23:35 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-06 21:55 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 00:08 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 21:45 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 22:33 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-08 22:22 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-08 23:31 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-09 22:16 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-10 09:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-10 22:14 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Toni White <toni56102@gmail.com> - 2020-12-02 00:06 -0800
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-02 10:07 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-02 10:13 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Toni White <toni56102@gmail.com> - 2020-12-02 06:12 -0800
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Toni White <toni56102@gmail.com> - 2020-12-02 06:15 -0800
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-02 15:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Toni White <toni56102@gmail.com> - 2020-12-02 15:09 -0800
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-03 04:52 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Toni White <toni56102@gmail.com> - 2020-12-04 12:51 -0800
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-05 10:30 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-02 22:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-03 16:18 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-03 17:24 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-03 18:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-03 18:35 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-03 18:42 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-03 19:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-02 22:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-28 22:02 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-29 12:19 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-29 22:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-29 22:51 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 08:30 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 09:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-30 09:33 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 10:05 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 10:30 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 10:45 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 11:27 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 11:42 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 12:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-30 12:26 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 12:45 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 13:07 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-30 13:09 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 13:31 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 13:43 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 12:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 13:38 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 13:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 14:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 17:56 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 17:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 18:30 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 19:23 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-30 19:35 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 23:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-30 23:42 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 00:10 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-01 08:53 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 09:35 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-01 15:42 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 16:54 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-01 18:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 19:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 21:52 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-30 22:22 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 22:00 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 22:19 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-02 21:54 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-02 22:19 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-03 04:54 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-03 21:59 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-03 22:56 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-04 21:59 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-04 22:18 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Toni White <toni56102@gmail.com> - 2020-12-04 14:00 -0800
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-04 23:24 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-05 22:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-05 23:19 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-06 21:56 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 00:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 21:46 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-07 22:38 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-08 22:23 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-08 23:22 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-09 10:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-09 10:26 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-09 22:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-09 23:57 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-12-10 22:15 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-23 10:50 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:19 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:49 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 22:04 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 00:02 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 22:02 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 22:51 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-26 22:11 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-26 23:48 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-27 22:18 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 23:13 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 22:05 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 00:23 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 22:03 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 23:08 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-26 22:12 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-26 23:56 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-27 22:20 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-20 01:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-20 08:56 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-20 13:40 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-20 14:11 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 09:00 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-21 09:42 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 09:53 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-21 10:35 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 11:08 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-21 11:10 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 11:14 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-21 12:55 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 13:23 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-21 13:36 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 14:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-21 14:51 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 15:07 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-21 15:13 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-21 15:19 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-21 15:23 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-22 15:02 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-22 15:15 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-23 00:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 09:45 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-23 10:21 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 10:35 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-23 10:48 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 10:56 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-23 11:37 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 11:49 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-23 15:33 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 18:06 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-23 22:37 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 22:42 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-24 01:28 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 00:38 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-25 07:26 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 09:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-25 11:08 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 11:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-25 12:06 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 12:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-25 12:32 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-25 18:59 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-26 11:22 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-27 07:53 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-28 08:06 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-28 10:01 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-28 10:04 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-28 10:34 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-28 10:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-28 10:52 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Carla Schneider <carla_sch@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-28 11:06 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-28 11:42 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-28 11:47 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-11-28 13:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-28 13:23 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-28 14:10 +0100
                Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-20 14:22 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-20 14:58 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-20 17:57 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-26 18:09 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-26 19:13 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-27 11:59 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-12-27 12:08 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-27 12:14 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-27 15:24 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt "Dieter Grosch" <dgrosch@t-online.de> - 2020-12-27 17:49 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-12-27 18:05 +0100
                Re: Kreisende Uhr/Doppler-Effekt Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-29 22:03 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-20 17:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-11-16 00:13 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-16 08:19 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-16 21:50 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-16 22:24 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-11-17 18:02 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-17 19:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Takvorian <tak-us@gmx.de> - 2020-11-19 13:53 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-11-16 12:55 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-16 13:09 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de> - 2020-11-16 21:06 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-16 21:24 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-16 21:51 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-16 22:28 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-17 21:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-17 22:51 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Sebastin Wolf <invaild@invaild.net> - 2020-11-18 16:23 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-18 21:58 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-18 22:25 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2020-11-19 21:53 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2020-12-29 22:17 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Toni White <toni56102@gmail.com> - 2020-12-01 02:24 -0800
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-12-01 16:09 +0100
                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-11-03 00:38 +0100

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