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Re: end of intel for Mac?

From Alan Baker <email@domain.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: end of intel for Mac?
Date 2015-09-09 15:43 -0700
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On 2015-09-09 22:29:20 +0000, Alan Browne said:

> On 2015-09-09 18:23, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2015-09-09 22:13:37 +0000, Alan Browne said:
>> 
>>> On 2015-09-09 17:56, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2015-09-09 21:28:47 +0000, Oregonian Haruspex said:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2015-09-09 19:50:34 +0000, Alan Baker said:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Except there's no evidence that such a change is even contemplated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the contrary, there is strong evidence that Apple has ported at
>>>>> least significant portions of OS X to the ARM architecture in the iOS
>>>>> devices, and Apple said around the time of the switch to Intel that
>>>>> they had OS X running on "several" architectures.  You can probably
>>>>> read about it somewhere.
>>>> 
>>>> That is not evidence that the change is contemplated except in the most
>>>> theoretical sense.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is logical to assume that Apple, one of the largest and most
>>>>> profitable companies on the planet, can afford significant R&D and
>>>>> they do provide evidence of this as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Additionally, Nextstep upon which OS X was based, was made to run on
>>>>> many architectures and was designed to be portable.  To my knowledge,
>>>>> OS X (or significant chunks thereof) or Nextstep or Openstep or
>>>>> Rhapsody or the Yellow Box environment (basically Openstep inside an
>>>>> application-level process, used to support iTunes and Safari on
>>>>> Windows to this day) ran on Intel, PPC, 68K, SPARC, HPPA, Intel i860,
>>>>> MIPS, and ARM at the very least over the years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apple didn't provide a lot of evidence that they were going to change
>>>>> to Intel either, even though there was some speculation largely from
>>>>> some files in the OS that hadn't been stripped of their debugging
>>>>> symbols.
>>>> 
>>>> And lack of evidence cannot be taken as evidence.
>>> 
>>> Get off the "evidence" bend.  The OP was speculative based on things
>>> said and supposed.  You're B&W in a grey discussion.
>> 
>> I'm looking at it rationally.
> 
> On usenet?
> 
>> 
>> They said some things in the context of pumping up the iPad Pro.
>> 
>> That's all.
> 
> That's not all.  Words matter.

Words do matter...

...but so does context.

Sorry, but we disagree on what the words used at today's events signify.

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end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 13:55 -0400
  Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 11:14 -0700
    Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 15:34 -0400
      Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 12:50 -0700
        Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-09 15:55 -0400
          Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 13:21 -0700
            Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-09 16:33 -0400
            Re: end of intel for Mac? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-09 14:29 -0700
              Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 14:57 -0700
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 18:14 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 15:24 -0700
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 18:32 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 15:43 -0700
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 19:23 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 16:51 -0700
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-09-09 18:39 -0700
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 18:53 -0700
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-10 17:57 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-10 17:38 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-09 20:31 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-10 17:46 -0400
          Re: end of intel for Mac? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-09 17:11 -0400
            Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-09 17:15 -0400
            Re: end of intel for Mac? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-09-09 22:39 +0100
              Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-09 17:43 -0400
        Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 15:56 -0400
          Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 13:21 -0700
            Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 16:35 -0400
        Re: end of intel for Mac? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-09 14:28 -0700
          Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 14:56 -0700
            Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 18:13 -0400
              Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 15:23 -0700
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 18:29 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-09-09 15:43 -0700
              Re: end of intel for Mac? thomas.e.elam@gmail.com - 2015-09-13 08:38 -0700
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-13 16:17 +0000
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-13 13:16 -0700
                Re: end of intel for Mac? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-09-13 11:27 -0600
  Re: end of intel for Mac? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-09 14:21 -0700
    Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-09 17:24 -0400
    Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 17:35 -0400
      Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-09 17:43 -0400
        Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-09 18:12 -0400
          Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-09 18:19 -0400
            Re: end of intel for Mac? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-09 20:23 -0400
              Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-09 22:05 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-10 01:10 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-10 01:17 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-10 01:33 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-10 10:24 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-10 17:54 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-10 20:11 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-11 12:36 -0400
                Re: end of intel for Mac? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-10 18:20 +1200
            Re: end of intel for Mac? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-10 17:40 -0400
    Re: end of intel for Mac? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-09 20:19 -0400

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