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| From | Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: spinning beach ball of death |
| Date | 2015-09-02 20:14 -0600 |
| Organization | albasani.net |
| Message-ID | <ms8ade$e0m$2@news.albasani.net> (permalink) |
| References | <mrrcqv$tgu$1@news.albasani.net> <ms7uve$v6t$1@news.albasani.net> <ms80dq$h3a$2@dont-email.me> <ms83d0$2fd$1@news.albasani.net> |
On 9/2/15 6:14 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 9/2/15 5:25 PM, Don Bruder wrote:
>> In article <ms7uve$v6t$1@news.albasani.net>,
>> Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/28/15 10:35 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>>> A new friend has a fairly new (sorry, don't know how long she's had it)
>>>> Mac laptop with Yosemite, and she reports that the spinning beach ball
>>>> has been steadily making itself more known as the computer ages.
>>>>
>>>> Looked at a couple pages of troubleshooting, and both recommend using
>>>> Activity Monitor to troubleshoot. Neither of us are that technically
>>>> oriented. LOL
>>>>
>>>> On another page, reference is made to changing power settings, of which
>>>> I doubt she's capable of.
>>>>
>>>> The same page lists decreasing space on the hard drive for swapping
>>>> files. This may be a possibility, but I won't be able to check until
>>>> next Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any other simple checks we can do for the initial
>>>> troubleshooting phase?
>>>
>>> An update...
>>>
>>> I had a chance to work with the computer for about an hour. That's all
>>> the time she had free after a community luncheon we both attend.
>>>
>>> Macbook Pro 8.1, so it's older than I thought.
>>> 4GB ram.
>>>
>>> 320 GB hard drive
>>> 85 GB used <--------- Rather eliminates the hard drive being full, I'd
>>> think.
>>>
>>> Even for as long as she has owned it, still very computer illiterate.
>>> Pointed her to the Computer Basic help for her to read.
>>>
>>> Now, the curious part... For the entire time, the computer was on, but
>>> not a single spinning beachball! Which, of course, makes
>>> troubleshooting... troublesome! LOL
>>>
>>> As best as I could ascertain, the only difference between today, and
>>> when she's at home, is we were NOT connected to the internet.
>>>
>>> Her internet is currently Hughesnet satellite internet. Limited access
>>> where she lives. I've asked her, if she goes home and has the beachball
>>> problem, to turn off the Hughesnet router and see if the beachballs go
>>> away. If they do, my thought is there is no hardware problem, but there
>>> is some type or types of malware that have been installed.
>>>
>>> If this was a Windows machine, I'd be on top of it with Malwarebytes and
>>> AV software. She has a version of AVG installed, not sure which one,
>>> that is running on a trial basis. But the trial expires in 2 days. I
>>> suggested she remove AVG and install either Avira Free or Avast Free
>>> (personal preferences for me), that way we can see if the new software
>>> finds something AVG did not.
>>>
>>> My question is, can malware of this type be installed on a Mac? I've
>>> never seen the subject discussed, too new to this newsgroup possibly,
>>> but I've seen a lot of people say they don't use AV software either.
>>> And I've seen Windows users on Usenet that don't run AV software either.
>>
>> Nutshell version:
>> Macs aren't immune to malware, but the reality is that since Mac OS X
>> 10.0, there has never been an "in the wild" sighting of actual live
>> malware that targets Macs. Some in the lab, some discussed as concepts,
>> and a whole shitload of "Hey, look, there's a vulnerability that the bad
>> guys might be able to exploit to install malware", but no such thing as
>> an actual catchable malware that can be had in any way other than
>> actually deliberately installing it.
>>
>> I'm betting the trouble is with the hughesnet gear - probably a
>> misconfiguration that makes the Mac want to try to
>> establish/re-establish a connect that's, for whatever reason, dropping
>> out form under it. A dud connection when the Mac is configured to expect
>> it'll find a live connection definitely WILL beachball the machine as it
>> tries to talk to the 'net.
>
> That's a great thought about Hughesnet! Thanks. I'll pass this along
> to her via email.
I just found out via email she will be disconnecting Hughenet on the
18th. Unfortunately, she only has 2 other options, dial up and Skybeam
(used to have a different name). Dish/Wild Blue will not work at her
location.
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 36.0.4
Thunderbird 31.5
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
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