Re: spinning beach ball of death

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: spinning beach ball of death
Date	2015-09-06 02:34 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<d51n0tFqc64U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2015-09-05, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>
> I worked for a startup that, to my surprise, converted the engineers 
> from CostCo laptops to MacBook Pros.  Only a few people were left who 
> had the Windows laptops (my and the rest of IT included).  For the most 
> part, the engineers were self-maintaining when it came to their laptops.  
> They had admin accounts and could install anything they wanted on them 
> but there was a base install of various tools and compilers that I setup 
> when I on-boarded each system before giving to an engineer.
>
> I had a bunch of tools I used to keep my system clean from side-loaded 
> web-based malware and other crap, but for the most part I stayed 
> relatively clean.  No so with the office manager.  A nice lady who did 
> the paperwork for the company, but she wasn't technical.  After her PC 
> was infected with ransomware for the 2nd time, I discussed removing or 
> disabling Internet Exploder from her windows box and making her use 
> Chrome with a bunch of blocker plugins.  She kept clicking on stuff that 
> would sideload this crap.
>
> In contrast, an engineer wanted Office installed on his Mac so he 
> dropped it off at my desk. I discovered some adware installed on his 
> machine and asked what he installed last Saturday at 11am. 
>
> "Oh, that was for an on-line gaming site.  I need to install Steam."
>
> "Well, you also installed some malware that's making your browsers 
> display ads for various sites.  Guess who just won the 'you get your 
> laptop wiped lottery?'"
>
> I told this story to a friend who works at Google.  They got rid of all 
> their windows systems and replaced them with Macs because the Chinese 
> government was using the windows boxes to gain access to Google's 
> infrastructure.  Only people working on something that must run on 
> Windows can have Windows (e.g. Google Drive for Windows).
>
> Macs are more secure out of the box but that just means the user doesn't 
> have to do a bunch of stuff to make it secure at the outset.

Yes. Apple understands a more secure default configuration is best for
novice users. And there's really no better way to avoid malware than
using safe computing practices!

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JR

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                Re: spinning beach ball of death Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-04 03:36 +0000
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                Re: spinning beach ball of death nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-04 13:00 -0400
                Re: spinning beach ball of death Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-09-04 22:44 +0100
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                Re: spinning beach ball of death Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-05 15:04 +0000
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