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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: [OT] I won! |
| Date | 2015-08-27 01:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d4773nF7n9cU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:10:16 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: > On 2015-08-26 19:40, Lloyd Parsons wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:01:11 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-25 17:38, Lloyd Parsons wrote: >>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:22:57 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-25 17:20, Lloyd Parsons wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:36:53 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-08-25 13:36, Lloyd Parsons wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:47:02 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-24 23:26, Lloyd Parsons wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:36:26 -0400, JF Mezei wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 15-08-24 21:10, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To save a whopping ~$24 in gas per year, I suppose... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Average tank size about 45 litres. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Current average price in Montréal: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regular: $1.27 Premium: $1.41 >>>>>>>>>>> (source stat canada: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/ >>>>>> econ152f- >>>>>>>>>> eng.htm >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fill up costs difference: $6.30 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Unless you fill up only 4 times per year, you will end up >>>>>>>>>>> spending more than $24 for premium in a year. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I use premium and put 10 gallons of gas in or thereabouts every >>>>>>>>>> other month. So each fillup costs me $3 more or $18/year. Of >>>>>>>>>> course a trip or two can change that a bit. >>>>>>>>>> But I have a performance tune on my Encore that requires at >>>>>>>>>> least 91 octane. I get better performance overall and a little >>>>>>>>>> better mileage. >>>>>>>>>> worth it to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The difference in mileage is less than 1%. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> which doesn't change a thing and is incorrect. My highway >>>>>>>> mileage with regular and standard tune is dead on 33. With the >>>>>>>> Power Tune and Premium gas it is about 35.2 or about a 6% >>>>>>>> improvement. But the performance is much better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You would have to run through about 10 tanks of gas of each kind >>>>>>> in similar conditions to establish the difference. Which would be >>>>>>> < 1%. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, you do that crap, I"ll continue to enjoy driving my car and not >>>>>> spending much on gas while doing it. :) >>>>> >>>>> You're absolutely delusional if you believe you're getting more than >>>>> 1% >>>>> mileage improvement from premium gas. >>>> >>>> >>>> bullshit. It isn't just the premium gas, it is the new tune I put in >>>> it. You know you can do that, right? >>> >>> Even greater self deception. Enjoy the illusion. >> >> >> no 'illusion' involved, just very simple math. > > Which you haven't done. You said above that you're not willing to do > the work to figure it out. > > Walk off into illusion land... You keep thinking that the only way is to do it over a long term and yes, that would be more accurate by some small percentage. But the tank by tank in various driving scenarios is more than good enough for most and is what is done by almost everyone that actually fiddles with it at all. I know I got better performance with the combo of premium fuel and a tune on the engine to take advantage of it. I also know that I got some mileage increase, highway about 6% improvement, around town not so much. Is the mileage gain enough to pay the difference? No, but so what? If all I wanted was better mileage I could have put on an economy tune and used regular gas. -- Lloyd
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