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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

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On 5/3/17, 1:22 PM, in article 3_qOA.1$jo6.0@fx33.iad, "Wolf K"
<wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> On 2017-05-03 13:02, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/3/17, 7:38 AM, in article op.yzn2xqkzjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 03 May 2017 02:54:40 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 5/2/17, 5:07 PM, in article op.yzmynal9js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> It's as bad as "burrrrglarrrr alarrrrm": https://youtu.be/S5WFl4E8VCI
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     <https://youtu.be/y8lArz1_jO0>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Surely Germans could be told the shape to make with their mouths.  I
>>>>>>> severely doubt their facial muscles are any different.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What would make you think this had anything to do with different muscles?
>>>>>> Seems like a very odd jump to me... don't see how you got there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> How the hell do you think we make consonants?
>>>>> 
>>>> Please tell me you are just playing at being lost here... if not I am
>>>> concerned for you. Maybe you really think making speech sounds is just
>>>> about the physical way we are made and not how we learn? Try making sounds
>>>> from some African, Middle Eastern, or Asian languages... not easy of you
>>>> are not used to it. Heck, try throat singing for a while. :)
>>>> 
>>> Watch yourself in the mirror making different consonants.  You make shapes
>>> with your lips and tongue.  That requires the use of different facial
>>> muscles. Nobody anywhere in the world lacks those muscles, so anyone can
>>> make any sound when taught how to do so.
> [...]
> 
> Simply false. A human's ability to make any speech sound declines
> rapidly after about 18 months (around the time they begin to acquire the
> local speech). Acquiring two or more languages as child (up to about 12
> years of age) improves the odds that one can learn additional languages
> almost accent-free in adulthood. Emphasise "almost".
> 
> The IPA has signs for over 400 speech sounds. The typical language uses
> about two to three dozen phonemes, which explains why alphabets have
> about two to three dozen signs. Diacritical marks are used to extend the
> range. All languages also use suprasegmental phonemes, ie, patterns of
> stress, tone, and juncture, which serve to identify the syntactic and
> verbal structures, and modify meanings. Eg, try saying "He's home now"
> three ways, palcing the main stress on each word.

Thanks... excellent info and much of what I was saying but said much better.
:)

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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 20:04 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 12:19 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-05-02 15:51 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 21:07 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 13:59 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 21:14 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 14:07 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 01:07 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 18:54 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 15:38 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:02 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-03 16:22 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 13:40 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:01 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:25 -0700
        Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-05-03 07:01 +0000
          Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 10:46 +0100
            Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:09 -0700
              Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-05-03 22:06 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 23:16 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 00:19 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 16:46 -0700
              Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-08 00:04 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 16:08 -0700

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