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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

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On Tue, 02 May 2017 20:19:38 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 5/2/17, 12:04 PM, in article op.yzmkk6wbjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>>>>> It took me a while to accept it, but I still cringe when I hear people
>>>>> pronounce the "t" in "often". Used to be that was considered a no-no... but
>>>>> it is done so often it is now accepted.
>>>>
>>>> Accepted by some people, but not by me. To me, it's another example of
>>>> "simply wrong."
>>>
>>> As I said I still cringe but I have learned to accept it as "correct" these
>>> days.
>>
>> It's as bad as "burrrrglarrrr alarrrrm": https://youtu.be/S5WFl4E8VCI
>
>     <https://youtu.be/y8lArz1_jO0>

Surely Germans could be told the shape to make with their mouths.  I severely doubt their facial muscles are any different.

> And then there is this... how English sounds to non-English speakers:
>
>     <https://youtu.be/-VsmF9m_Nt8>

Sounds like a whole load of English syllables shoved together.  Reminds me of the spam software that makes random sentences that are quite readable but mean nothing.  You can do it yourself if you turn off you brain:

Suddenly he invented henceforth that tomorrow should become normal to the kinder pigs, as they became lower then the precipice of eternity.  But without the whaling it was not known that we should refrain from giving up our sandwiches for the daily rituals of hiking towards the momentous occasion that will forever be shorter than what was expected.

>>>>> Same with only one space after a
>>>>> period, I was taught two and had to adjust.
>>>>
>>>> But I disagree with you on that. Back in the days of typewriters, what
>>>> you say was correct. Even today, with a monospaced font, it's better
>>>> to have two spaces; it makes it easier to read. But it's never been
>>>> correct with proportional fonts.
>>
>> Proportional fonts don't stop it being correct.  You can still make a larger
>> space with proportional fonts.
>>
>>> Right... but monospaced used to be the norm. Now it is the exception. When I
>>> was taught I was never told of the difference being based on the font, just
>>> that two spaces was the "rule."
>>
>> I was never taught it, but I saw some people doing it and realised it was much
>> neater and easier to read, so I do it too.
>
> I home school my kids

Good for you.  I think ALL kids should be home schooled.  Why let the government brainwash them?

> and look at lot of this stuff up.

And what opinion have you formed on it?

>>> Also struggle with the period being inside the quotes. And different parts
>>> of the world do that one in what I see as a more reasonable way than the
>>> American standard. I go back and forth. :)
>>
>> I use both because I can never remember which is correct.  I can't see any
>> logical reason why one is wrong.
>
> To me if the punctuation is not a part of the quote it should not be in the
> quote.

So you would write:
“No need for that”, said Zack.
As Zack would actually be speaking a fullstop and not a comma.
I think that looks untidy and would write:
“No need for that,” said Zack.
In fact I think I always punctuate inside the quotes.

That brings me onto another annoyance.  I detest people using an apostrophe instead of a quotation mark:
'No need for that,' said Zack.

> US English says it should be, though, at least in some cases. To me
> that is insane. I do sometimes try to do it the US way, but then go back to
> the British way which makes more sense to me.
>
> Also notice that different books my kids use do or do not use the Oxford
> comma. I teach them to use it but note the lack of consistency.

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 20:04 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 12:19 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-05-02 15:51 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 21:07 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 13:59 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 21:14 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 14:07 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 01:07 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 18:54 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 15:38 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:02 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-03 16:22 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 13:40 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:01 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:25 -0700
        Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-05-03 07:01 +0000
          Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 10:46 +0100
            Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:09 -0700
              Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-05-03 22:06 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 23:16 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 00:19 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 16:46 -0700
              Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-08 00:04 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 16:08 -0700

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