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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

Subject Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution
References (16 earlier) <D52E432C.A3254%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <op.yzmynal9js98qf@red.lan> <D52E8670.A335B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <op.yzn2xqkzjs98qf@red.lan> <D52F5B53.A3479%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
From Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Message-ID <3_qOA.1$jo6.0@fx33.iad> (permalink)
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Date 2017-05-03 16:22 -0400

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On 2017-05-03 13:02, Snit wrote:
> On 5/3/17, 7:38 AM, in article op.yzn2xqkzjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 03 May 2017 02:54:40 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/2/17, 5:07 PM, in article op.yzmynal9js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>>>>>> It's as bad as "burrrrglarrrr alarrrrm": https://youtu.be/S5WFl4E8VCI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     <https://youtu.be/y8lArz1_jO0>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surely Germans could be told the shape to make with their mouths.  I
>>>>>> severely doubt their facial muscles are any different.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What would make you think this had anything to do with different muscles?
>>>>> Seems like a very odd jump to me... don't see how you got there.
>>>>
>>>> How the hell do you think we make consonants?
>>>
>>> Please tell me you are just playing at being lost here... if not I am
>>> concerned for you. Maybe you really think making speech sounds is just about
>>> the physical way we are made and not how we learn? Try making sounds from
>>> some African, Middle Eastern, or Asian languages... not easy of you are not
>>> used to it. Heck, try throat singing for a while. :)
>>
>> Watch yourself in the mirror making different consonants.  You make shapes
>> with your lips and tongue.  That requires the use of different facial muscles.
>> Nobody anywhere in the world lacks those muscles, so anyone can make any sound
>> when taught how to do so.
[...]

Simply false. A human's ability to make any speech sound declines 
rapidly after about 18 months (around the time they begin to acquire the 
local speech). Acquiring two or more languages as child (up to about 12 
years of age) improves the odds that one can learn additional languages 
almost accent-free in adulthood. Emphasise "almost".

The IPA has signs for over 400 speech sounds. The typical language uses 
about two to three dozen phonemes, which explains why alphabets have 
about two to three dozen signs. Diacritical marks are used to extend the 
range. All languages also use suprasegmental phonemes, ie, patterns of 
stress, tone, and juncture, which serve to identify the syntactic and 
verbal structures, and modify meanings. Eg, try saying "He's home now" 
three ways, palcing the main stress on each word.

-- 
Best,
Wolf K
https://kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"What good is it having lower taxes when you can’t drink the water?”

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 20:04 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 12:19 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-05-02 15:51 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 21:07 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 13:59 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 21:14 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 14:07 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 01:07 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 18:54 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 15:38 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:02 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-03 16:22 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 13:40 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:01 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:25 -0700
        Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-05-03 07:01 +0000
          Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 10:46 +0100
            Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:09 -0700
              Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-05-03 22:06 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 23:16 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 00:19 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 16:46 -0700
          Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-05-03 09:24 -0400
            Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:10 -0700

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