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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

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On 5/2/17, 12:04 PM, in article op.yzmkk6wbjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

...
>>>> It took me a while to accept it, but I still cringe when I hear people
>>>> pronounce the "t" in "often". Used to be that was considered a no-no... but
>>>> it is done so often it is now accepted.
>>> 
>>> Accepted by some people, but not by me. To me, it's another example of
>>> "simply wrong."
>> 
>> As I said I still cringe but I have learned to accept it as "correct" these
>> days.
> 
> It's as bad as "burrrrglarrrr alarrrrm": https://youtu.be/S5WFl4E8VCI

    <https://youtu.be/y8lArz1_jO0>

And then there is this... how English sounds to non-English speakers:

    <https://youtu.be/-VsmF9m_Nt8>

>>>> Same with only one space after a
>>>> period, I was taught two and had to adjust.
>>> 
>>> But I disagree with you on that. Back in the days of typewriters, what
>>> you say was correct. Even today, with a monospaced font, it's better
>>> to have two spaces; it makes it easier to read. But it's never been
>>> correct with proportional fonts.
> 
> Proportional fonts don't stop it being correct.  You can still make a larger
> space with proportional fonts.
> 
>> Right... but monospaced used to be the norm. Now it is the exception. When I
>> was taught I was never told of the difference being based on the font, just
>> that two spaces was the "rule."
> 
> I was never taught it, but I saw some people doing it and realised it was much
> neater and easier to read, so I do it too.

I home school my kids and look at lot of this stuff up.

>> Also struggle with the period being inside the quotes. And different parts
>> of the world do that one in what I see as a more reasonable way than the
>> American standard. I go back and forth. :)
> 
> I use both because I can never remember which is correct.  I can't see any
> logical reason why one is wrong.

To me if the punctuation is not a part of the quote it should not be in the
quote. US English says it should be, though, at least in some cases. To me
that is insane. I do sometimes try to do it the US way, but then go back to
the British way which makes more sense to me.

Also notice that different books my kids use do or do not use the Oxford
comma. I teach them to use it but note the lack of consistency.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 20:04 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 12:19 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-05-02 15:51 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 21:07 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 13:59 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-02 21:14 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 14:07 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 01:07 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-02 18:54 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 15:38 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:02 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-03 16:22 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 13:40 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:01 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 14:25 -0700
        Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-05-03 07:01 +0000
          Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 10:46 +0100
            Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 10:09 -0700
              Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-05-03 22:06 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-03 23:16 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-04 00:19 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 436 / 2017-05-04 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-03 16:46 -0700
              Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-05-08 00:04 +0100
                Re: Snit digest 435 / 2017-05-03 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 16:08 -0700

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