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| Started by | Max Muller <maxmuller@info.gathering> |
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| First post | 2016-04-15 14:10 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-04-27 18:59 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 227 — 29 participants |
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Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Max Muller <maxmuller@info.gathering> - 2016-04-15 14:10 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Marob Katon <marobkaton@examples.com> - 2016-04-15 15:22 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) » Chevron « <C@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-15 11:29 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Marob Katon <marobkaton@examples.com> - 2016-04-15 15:38 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) » Chevron « <C@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-15 11:46 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-15 16:20 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 11:30 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Marob Katon <marobkaton@examples.com> - 2016-04-15 15:37 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 11:47 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Rene lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2016-04-15 10:28 -0500
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 19:36 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Rene lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2016-04-15 13:04 -0500
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 21:05 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-16 00:32 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-16 09:42 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-16 14:04 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:18 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-17 09:58 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 11:10 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-17 13:27 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 15:14 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-18 18:27 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-18 23:59 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-18 20:51 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-19 13:05 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-19 13:10 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-19 13:19 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-19 14:23 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-19 18:56 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-19 19:08 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-21 07:59 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-19 04:09 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-19 12:59 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-20 00:15 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-24 23:42 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-16 16:14 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Rene lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2016-04-16 10:07 -0500
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:21 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-17 06:36 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 15:01 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-24 23:46 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-24 21:50 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-24 19:37 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-04-24 16:03 -0700
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:19 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Rene lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2016-04-16 19:45 -0500
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 14:59 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-15 21:52 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-16 00:36 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-16 01:11 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:23 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-17 06:47 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 15:27 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 15:25 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-04-16 11:27 +1000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-16 09:47 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:35 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:40 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 01:04 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 21:16 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 02:15 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 22:19 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 03:11 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 03:09 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-17 06:53 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 14:28 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 15:50 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-04-17 13:34 +1000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-17 10:01 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-24 23:49 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:29 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:32 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 01:10 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 21:16 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 02:17 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 22:19 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-24 23:53 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 14:34 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-17 06:49 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-17 07:48 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-17 10:02 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-16 09:36 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:40 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-17 10:08 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 15:57 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-17 13:31 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-04-16 02:36 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-16 09:54 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-24 23:57 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 16:00 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2016-04-15 18:45 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 19:57 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-04-16 04:18 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-16 04:34 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-04-21 06:23 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-21 04:41 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2016-04-15 12:33 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:44 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 16:58 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 13:06 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-15 17:09 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-04-15 13:28 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 14:10 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-04-15 15:49 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 16:07 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-04-15 17:54 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-15 20:37 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-15 21:59 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-25 00:03 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2016-04-15 13:36 -0500
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 14:37 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-04-15 15:53 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 16:07 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-15 21:55 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-25 00:00 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-24 18:28 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-25 22:23 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-25 16:32 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-26 23:39 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 18:05 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-27 03:23 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-27 16:11 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-27 13:05 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-27 22:01 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-28 00:14 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-25 23:15 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2016-04-15 17:37 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-15 14:25 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 14:28 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-04-15 14:44 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-15 15:06 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-15 15:28 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-04-16 03:01 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-16 06:04 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-04-16 13:39 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:48 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-04-16 20:05 -0500
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 02:01 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-17 06:45 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 15:59 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-17 10:16 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-04-17 14:01 -0500
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 19:19 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-04-18 09:39 +1000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-18 04:25 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-18 15:35 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-18 13:10 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-18 14:10 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-18 14:15 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-18 18:21 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-25 00:15 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-24 18:28 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-25 22:26 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-25 16:32 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-26 23:42 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 18:05 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-27 16:13 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-27 13:05 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-28 00:00 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-27 18:02 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-25 23:19 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-26 23:45 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 18:05 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-27 16:16 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-27 13:05 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-27 18:58 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-28 00:10 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-28 11:06 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-04-16 21:18 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:44 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-16 06:05 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-04-16 13:42 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-17 06:46 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Mike Barnes <mikebarnes333@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 20:02 +0100
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-15 15:38 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-04-15 14:33 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@buf.uk> - 2016-04-15 16:25 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@buf.uk> - 2016-04-16 12:03 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-16 05:56 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-16 11:44 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:51 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 02:53 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-04-16 13:53 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-16 08:37 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-16 11:28 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-16 16:26 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:52 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-16 09:50 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:52 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:56 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 02:03 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 03:17 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 16:02 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-04-17 10:09 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Mike Barnes <mikebarnes333@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 15:43 +0100
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 14:48 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Rene lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2016-04-17 08:31 -0500
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Mike Barnes <mikebarnes333@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 16:47 +0100
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 16:04 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Mike Barnes <mikebarnes333@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 09:18 +0100
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 11:09 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2016-04-16 11:24 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-16 16:22 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:54 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:56 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 02:09 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 22:19 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-04-17 13:44 +1000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 00:50 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:51 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> - 2016-04-17 01:12 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 21:16 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 03:15 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@example.com> - 2016-04-17 05:13 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 06:13 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-17 12:17 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-17 16:01 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2016-04-16 11:44 +0100
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@example.com> - 2016-04-17 05:17 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 06:13 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2016-04-17 13:03 +0100
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Dave Doe <hard@work.ok> - 2016-04-25 10:24 +1200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 00:51 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-04-27 16:18 +0200
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-04-27 15:44 -0400
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-27 20:00 +0000
Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-27 18:59 +0000
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-17 15:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <170420161514272329%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #35266 |
In article <to-dnfjqlKUCWo7KnZ2dnUU7-VvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>> That iTunes is malware, bloatware, and an infestation all wrapped up in > >>> one is why it's so bad to install on *any* system, even on OS/X. > >> > >> It's neither malware nor infestation. It is bloatware - and we hope one > >> day Apple will break it up into concise modules. > > > > no we definitely don't want that. > > > > using one app to sync content is much better than needing a half-dozen > > or so separate apps, each syncing their own content. ugh. > > I've described the notion elsewhere in more detail where unified(ing) > processes take place out of sight / out of mind. it already works that way. > iTunes has turned into > a monstrous kludge. This makes it in turn difficult and complex for > users to grasp and manage and I suspect probably a monster headache for > Apple to maintain. It is the antitheses of intuitive. apple is rewriting it, which should be obvious from their indifference to windows quicktime issues. it's also a lot more work than one might think.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-04-18 18:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1fidnWuPo-7YwojKnZ2dnUU7-ePNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35272 |
On 2016-04-17 15:14, nospam wrote:
> In article <to-dnfjqlKUCWo7KnZ2dnUU7-VvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>> That iTunes is malware, bloatware, and an infestation all wrapped up in
>>>>> one is why it's so bad to install on *any* system, even on OS/X.
>>>>
>>>> It's neither malware nor infestation. It is bloatware - and we hope one
>>>> day Apple will break it up into concise modules.
>>>
>>> no we definitely don't want that.
>>>
>>> using one app to sync content is much better than needing a half-dozen
>>> or so separate apps, each syncing their own content. ugh.
>>
>> I've described the notion elsewhere in more detail where unified(ing)
>> processes take place out of sight / out of mind.
>
> it already works that way.
No shit. The point was that the front end, the UI needs to be broken up
functionally so that it is clear what is going on to the user. You're
just churning. Again.
>
>> iTunes has turned into
>> a monstrous kludge. This makes it in turn difficult and complex for
>> users to grasp and manage and I suspect probably a monster headache for
>> Apple to maintain. It is the antitheses of intuitive.
>
> apple is rewriting it, which should be obvious from their indifference
> to windows quicktime issues. it's also a lot more work than one might
> think.
You know Apple is re-writing it? (Note: maintaining ≠ rewriting).
Of course it's work. But in the end much less work than maintaining a
large cumbersome over-complex, over-reaching piece of shit.
--
"But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with shitty luck."
..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-18 23:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dnlamhFcv0qU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35304 |
On 2016-04-18, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-04-17 15:14, nospam wrote: >> In article <to-dnfjqlKUCWo7KnZ2dnUU7-VvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> >>>>>> That iTunes is malware, bloatware, and an infestation all wrapped up in >>>>>> one is why it's so bad to install on *any* system, even on OS/X. >>>>> >>>>> It's neither malware nor infestation. It is bloatware - and we hope one >>>>> day Apple will break it up into concise modules. >>>> >>>> no we definitely don't want that. >>>> >>>> using one app to sync content is much better than needing a half-dozen >>>> or so separate apps, each syncing their own content. ugh. >>> >>> I've described the notion elsewhere in more detail where unified(ing) >>> processes take place out of sight / out of mind. >> >> it already works that way. > > No shit. The point was that the front end, the UI needs to be broken up > functionally so that it is clear what is going on to the user. Yes. And Apple could design an interface that allows users to interact with separate apps for certain related pieces of functionality while still implementing synchronization in the most user-friendly way on the back end. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-18 20:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <180420162051136573%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #35304 |
In article <1fidnWuPo-7YwojKnZ2dnUU7-ePNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >> iTunes has turned into > >> a monstrous kludge. This makes it in turn difficult and complex for > >> users to grasp and manage and I suspect probably a monster headache for > >> Apple to maintain. It is the antitheses of intuitive. > > > > apple is rewriting it, which should be obvious from their indifference > > to windows quicktime issues. it's also a lot more work than one might > > think. > > You know Apple is re-writing it? (Note: maintaining ‚ rewriting). sure do. apple has publicly stated on more than one occasion that they're rewriting itunes from the ground up and the fact that they're not going to fix the quicktime issues on windows is additional proof, as itunes on windows is based on qtml. > Of course it's work. But in the end much less work than maintaining a > large cumbersome over-complex, over-reaching piece of shit. definitely not. rewriting itunes is a fuckload of work, and unlike other apps apple has rewritten in the past, they can't gut its features and then call it an upgrade, as they did with imovie, final cut, quicktime x and photos. also unlike those apps, itunes also has to run on *both* mac *and* windows, and since quicktime is history, it will need to use an entirely new cross platform framework, perhaps a variant of yellow box. in other words, it's not as simple as you make it out to be. plus, itunes needs to not only sync content to devices (the part that most people bitch about), but also connect with apple music (which has its own set of issues that need to be resolved), itunes match, icloud and more. and if that's not enough, the itunes store back-end infrastructure is also being reworked, which scary as it may seem, still uses web objects. put simply, rewriting itunes is a huge undertaking with a *lot* riding on it, including millions of transactions happening every day. apple *can't* fuck it up. if people can't buy music, movies or apps, there's going to be a lot of very, very pissed off people.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-19 13:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Rf-dnesXN-XH-IvKnZ2dnUU7-SvNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35307 |
On 2016-04-18 20:51, nospam wrote:
> In article <1fidnWuPo-7YwojKnZ2dnUU7-ePNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>> iTunes has turned into
>>>> a monstrous kludge. This makes it in turn difficult and complex for
>>>> users to grasp and manage and I suspect probably a monster headache for
>>>> Apple to maintain. It is the antitheses of intuitive.
>>>
>>> apple is rewriting it, which should be obvious from their indifference
>>> to windows quicktime issues. it's also a lot more work than one might
>>> think.
>>
>> You know Apple is re-writing it? (Note: maintaining ‚ rewriting).
>
> sure do. apple has publicly stated on more than one occasion that
> they're rewriting itunes from the ground up and the fact that they're
> not going to fix the quicktime issues on windows is additional proof,
> as itunes on windows is based on qtml.
>
>> Of course it's work. But in the end much less work than maintaining a
>> large cumbersome over-complex, over-reaching piece of shit.
>
> definitely not.
>
BS about infeasibility snipped. In the end iTunes has gone to far. A
re-design of the UI is needed that breaks it up functionally. To be
sure much of the underlying functional code can be used.
--
"But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with shitty luck."
..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-19 13:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <190420161310332143%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #35313 |
In article <Rf-dnesXN-XH-IvKnZ2dnUU7-SvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> Of course it's work. But in the end much less work than maintaining a > >> large cumbersome over-complex, over-reaching piece of shit. > > > > definitely not. > > > BS about infeasibility snipped. i didn't say it's infeasible. i said it's a shitload of work, much more than rewriting a single app such as iphoto->photos, and it is. the itunes store began life nearly 15 years ago, before anyone had any idea how big it would become. they're redoing *all* of it. > In the end iTunes has gone to far. A > re-design of the UI is needed that breaks it up functionally. be careful for what you ask for. every time they redesign the ui, they make it worse, particularly with itunes 12. > To be > sure much of the underlying functional code can be used. then it would be maintenance, not a rewrite.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-19 13:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zNGdneVuZoYD9YvKnZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35314 |
On 2016-04-19 13:10, nospam wrote:
> In article <Rf-dnesXN-XH-IvKnZ2dnUU7-SvNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> Of course it's work. But in the end much less work than maintaining a
>>>> large cumbersome over-complex, over-reaching piece of shit.
>>>
>>> definitely not.
>>>
>> BS about infeasibility snipped.
>
> i didn't say it's infeasible. i said it's a shitload of work, much more
> than rewriting a single app such as iphoto->photos, and it is.
>
> the itunes store began life nearly 15 years ago, before anyone had any
> idea how big it would become. they're redoing *all* of it.
Redoing what? Reference?
>
>> In the end iTunes has gone to far. A
>> re-design of the UI is needed that breaks it up functionally.
>
> be careful for what you ask for. every time they redesign the ui, they
> make it worse, particularly with itunes 12.
Kinda proving the point that once too far down the road, it's time to
start fresh with the UI design. That in turn can re-use much of the
existing underpinning.
--
"But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with shitty luck."
..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-19 14:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <190420161423344985%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #35315 |
In article <zNGdneVuZoYD9YvKnZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Of course it's work. But in the end much less work than maintaining a > >>>> large cumbersome over-complex, over-reaching piece of shit. > >>> > >>> definitely not. > >>> > >> BS about infeasibility snipped. > > > > i didn't say it's infeasible. i said it's a shitload of work, much more > > than rewriting a single app such as iphoto->photos, and it is. > > > > the itunes store began life nearly 15 years ago, before anyone had any > > idea how big it would become. they're redoing *all* of it. > > Redoing what? the itunes platform. do try to keep up. > Reference? apple. > >> In the end iTunes has gone to far. A > >> re-design of the UI is needed that breaks it up functionally. > > > > be careful for what you ask for. every time they redesign the ui, they > > make it worse, particularly with itunes 12. > > Kinda proving the point that once too far down the road, it's time to > start fresh with the UI design. That in turn can re-use much of the > existing underpinning. the ui is easy to change and has. it's the underpinnings that are the problem, which also restricts what they can do. fifteen years ago, nobody expected the itunes platform to be what it is today.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-19 18:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <z5qdnSvS7o82KovKnZ2dnUU7-eudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35316 |
On 2016-04-19 14:23, nospam wrote:
> In article <zNGdneVuZoYD9YvKnZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course it's work. But in the end much less work than maintaining a
>>>>>> large cumbersome over-complex, over-reaching piece of shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> definitely not.
>>>>>
>>>> BS about infeasibility snipped.
>>>
>>> i didn't say it's infeasible. i said it's a shitload of work, much more
>>> than rewriting a single app such as iphoto->photos, and it is.
>>>
>>> the itunes store began life nearly 15 years ago, before anyone had any
>>> idea how big it would become. they're redoing *all* of it.
>>
>> Redoing what?
>
> the itunes platform. do try to keep up.
>
>> Reference?
>
> apple.
Link? Or is it just more superficial dressing up?
>
>>>> In the end iTunes has gone to far. A
>>>> re-design of the UI is needed that breaks it up functionally.
>>>
>>> be careful for what you ask for. every time they redesign the ui, they
>>> make it worse, particularly with itunes 12.
>>
>> Kinda proving the point that once too far down the road, it's time to
>> start fresh with the UI design. That in turn can re-use much of the
>> existing underpinning.
>
> the ui is easy to change and has. it's the underpinnings that are the
> problem, which also restricts what they can do.
Bzzt.
> fifteen years ago, nobody expected the itunes platform to be what it is
> today.
Precisely why it should be properly re-done. You can't keep hanging
more and more on something and expect it to work properly or be clear in
function.
--
"But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with shitty luck."
..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-04-19 19:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <190420161908401338%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #35317 |
In article <z5qdnSvS7o82KovKnZ2dnUU7-eudnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>>>> Of course it's work. But in the end much less work than maintaining a > >>>>>> large cumbersome over-complex, over-reaching piece of shit. > >>>>> > >>>>> definitely not. > >>>>> > >>>> BS about infeasibility snipped. > >>> > >>> i didn't say it's infeasible. i said it's a shitload of work, much more > >>> than rewriting a single app such as iphoto->photos, and it is. > >>> > >>> the itunes store began life nearly 15 years ago, before anyone had any > >>> idea how big it would become. they're redoing *all* of it. > >> > >> Redoing what? > > > > the itunes platform. do try to keep up. > > > >> Reference? > > > > apple. > > Link? Or is it just more superficial dressing up? already provided. do try to keep up. > >>>> In the end iTunes has gone to far. A > >>>> re-design of the UI is needed that breaks it up functionally. > >>> > >>> be careful for what you ask for. every time they redesign the ui, they > >>> make it worse, particularly with itunes 12. > >> > >> Kinda proving the point that once too far down the road, it's time to > >> start fresh with the UI design. That in turn can re-use much of the > >> existing underpinning. > > > > the ui is easy to change and has. it's the underpinnings that are the > > problem, which also restricts what they can do. > > Bzzt. you can't bzzt and then agree with what i'm saying: > > fifteen years ago, nobody expected the itunes platform to be what it is > > today. > > Precisely why it should be properly re-done. You can't keep hanging > more and more on something and expect it to work properly or be clear in > function. exactly the point. changing the ui is nothing more than aesthetics. redoing the entire app *and* the back-end is what's needed and what's happening.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-04-21 07:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <r4OdnRfJEOIFXYXKnZ2dnUU7-XednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35318 |
On 2016-04-19 19:08, nospam wrote:
> In article <z5qdnSvS7o82KovKnZ2dnUU7-eudnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Of course it's work. But in the end much less work than maintaining a
>>>>>>>> large cumbersome over-complex, over-reaching piece of shit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> definitely not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> BS about infeasibility snipped.
>>>>>
>>>>> i didn't say it's infeasible. i said it's a shitload of work, much more
>>>>> than rewriting a single app such as iphoto->photos, and it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> the itunes store began life nearly 15 years ago, before anyone had any
>>>>> idea how big it would become. they're redoing *all* of it.
>>>>
>>>> Redoing what?
>>>
>>> the itunes platform. do try to keep up.
>>>
>>>> Reference?
>>>
>>> apple.
>>
>> Link? Or is it just more superficial dressing up?
>
> already provided. do try to keep up.
I don't see any links. You know what a link is, right?
>
>>>>>> In the end iTunes has gone to far. A
>>>>>> re-design of the UI is needed that breaks it up functionally.
>>>>>
>>>>> be careful for what you ask for. every time they redesign the ui, they
>>>>> make it worse, particularly with itunes 12.
>>>>
>>>> Kinda proving the point that once too far down the road, it's time to
>>>> start fresh with the UI design. That in turn can re-use much of the
>>>> existing underpinning.
>>>
>>> the ui is easy to change and has. it's the underpinnings that are the
>>> problem, which also restricts what they can do.
>>
>> Bzzt.
>
> you can't bzzt and then agree with what i'm saying:
>
>>> fifteen years ago, nobody expected the itunes platform to be what it is
>>> today.
>>
>> Precisely why it should be properly re-done. You can't keep hanging
>> more and more on something and expect it to work properly or be clear in
>> function.
>
> exactly the point. changing the ui is nothing more than aesthetics.
>
> redoing the entire app *and* the back-end is what's needed and what's
> happening.
If you say so. So now you've changed position. First it was "oh my,
too large to do", now it's a re-do? Really?
If true I look forward to it.
--
"But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with shitty luck."
..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-04-19 04:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnhbc22.2dnu.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #35304 |
In message <1fidnWuPo-7YwojKnZ2dnUU7-ePNnZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > You know Apple is re-writing it? Yes. -- U is for UNA who slipped down a drain V is for VICTOR squashed by a train
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-04-19 12:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Ld2dnU4-Nf1m_ovKnZ2dnUU7-fPNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35309 |
On 2016-04-19 00:09, Lewis wrote:
> In message <1fidnWuPo-7YwojKnZ2dnUU7-ePNnZ2d@giganews.com>
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> You know Apple is re-writing it?
>
> Yes.
Reference? And as previously noted, maintenance ≠ rewriting.
--
"But I am somehow extraordinarily lucky, for a guy with shitty luck."
..Harrison Ford, Rolling Stone - 2015-12-02
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-04-20 00:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnhdio2.2f7j.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #35312 |
In message <Ld2dnU4-Nf1m_ovKnZ2dnUU7-fPNnZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-04-19 00:09, Lewis wrote: >> In message <1fidnWuPo-7YwojKnZ2dnUU7-ePNnZ2d@giganews.com> >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> You know Apple is re-writing it? >> >> Yes. > Reference? Either Eddie Cue or Craig Federighi, I forget which. -- 'It's vital to remember who you really are. It's very important. It isn't a good idea to rely on other people or things to do it for you, you see. They always get it wrong.' --Sourcery
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| From | "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-04-24 23:42 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nfjel0$1rdd$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #35304 |
On 04-19-2016 00:27, Alan Browne wrote: > No shit. The point was that the front end, the UI needs to be broken up > functionally so that it is clear what is going on to the user. You're > just churning. Again. By "broken up functionally" do you mean that they should move things like Podcasts, Photos, Notes, and iBooks into separate apps?
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-16 16:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dnf6mpFql5aU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35140 |
On 2016-04-16, Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> wrote: > On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 21:05:53 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Still not seeing the "malware"... > > It's more adequately described as an infestation, than malware, per se. "the presence of an unusually large number of insects or animals in a place, typically so as to cause damage or disease"? Bullshit. You install iTunes yourself. It includes QuickTime. And you can easily remove it. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Rene lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-04-16 10:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <netpk2$2vr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35168 |
On 4/16/2016 11:14 AM, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2016-04-16, Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> wrote: >> On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 21:05:53 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: >> >>> Still not seeing the "malware"... >> >> It's more adequately described as an infestation, than malware, per se. > > "the presence of an unusually large number of insects or animals in a > place, typically so as to cause damage or disease"? > > Bullshit. You install iTunes yourself. It includes QuickTime. And you > can easily remove it. > How come these news groups always contain copious amounts of Bullshit but never any Cowshit? Rene
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| From | Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> |
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| Date | 2016-04-17 00:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <neuku7$l4s$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #35172 |
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 10:07:41 -0500, Rene lamontagne wrote: > How come these news groups always contain copious amounts of Bullshit > but never any Cowshit? The person who says Bullshit hasn't ever installed iTunes or if he has, he doesn't know what he's talking about, because the Internet is filled with articles describing the infestation, and the many steps to get rid of the most noxious components of the infestation. I don't think that person who said BS knows anything about iTunes because he doesn't seem to be aware of what everyone else knows. 1. The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 without bloatware http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-unofficial-guide-to-installing-itunes-10-without-bloatware/ 2. Install iTunes 10 Without the Extra Bloatware http://lifehacker.com/5635089/install-itunes-10-without-the-extra-bloatware 3. Step-by-Step Guide to Installing iTunes Without Extra Bloatware http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/28727/how-to-install-itunes-without-extra-bloat/ 4. How to install iTunes without bloatware? https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1976464?tstart=0 5. How can iTunes be saved from being bloatware? https://www.quora.com/How-can-iTunes-be-saved-from-being-bloatware 6. Wikipedia on Software Bloat, with iTunes the primary example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat
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| From | Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2016-04-17 06:36 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution is to uninstall) |
| Message-ID | <MPG.317d31228265768698f777@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35180 |
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 00:21:28 +0000 (UTC), Joe Clock wrote:
>
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 10:07:41 -0500, Rene lamontagne wrote:
>
> > How come these news groups always contain copious amounts of Bullshit
> > but never any Cowshit?
>
> The person who says Bullshit hasn't ever installed iTunes or if he
> has, he doesn't know what he's talking about, because the Internet
> is filled with articles describing the infestation, and the many
> steps to get rid of the most noxious components of the infestation.
>
> I don't think that person who said BS knows anything about iTunes
> because he doesn't seem to be aware of what everyone else knows.
>
> 1. The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 without bloatware
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-unofficial-guide-to-installing-itunes-10-without-bloatware/
>
> 2. Install iTunes 10 Without the Extra Bloatware
> http://lifehacker.com/5635089/install-itunes-10-without-the-extra-bloatware
>
> 3. Step-by-Step Guide to Installing iTunes Without Extra Bloatware
> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/28727/how-to-install-itunes-without-extra-bloat/
>
> 4. How to install iTunes without bloatware?
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1976464?tstart=0
>
> 5. How can iTunes be saved from being bloatware?
> https://www.quora.com/How-can-iTunes-be-saved-from-being-bloatware
>
> 6. Wikipedia on Software Bloat, with iTunes the primary example
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat
7. http://oakroadsystems.com/tech/7service.htm#iTunes
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com/
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-17 15:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dnhmq0Ff80rU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35180 |
On 2016-04-17, Joe Clock <jclock@aioe.org> wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 10:07:41 -0500, Rene lamontagne wrote: > >> How come these news groups always contain copious amounts of Bullshit >> but never any Cowshit? > > The person who says Bullshit hasn't ever installed iTunes You're a lying troll - "VPN User" under a new nym. I've installed iTunes many times on many different Windows systems, and removing it is a simple visit to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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