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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.apps |
| Subject | Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) |
| Date | 2024-08-02 06:00 +0000 |
| Organization | the-candyden-of-code |
| Message-ID | <slrnvaosth.34j6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> (permalink) |
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Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote at 15:24 this Wednesday (GMT): > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: >> On 2024-07-31 05:50:03 +0000, candycanearter07 said: >>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote at 02:01 this Sunday (GMT): >>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: >>>>> On 2024-07-20 11:07:59 +0000, -hh said: >>>>>> On 7/19/24 11:09 PM, Andrew wrote: >>>>>>> "Meanwhile, all of those benefits are available on Android and have been >>>>>>> since Google introduced the idea of an AI-first smartphone in October 2024 >>>>>>> during the Pixel 8 launch. With Google's Pixel 9 family due to be announced >>>>>>> in August, Apple's iPhone will be two generations behind Android's AI >>>>>>> efforts before it has even left the Cupertino stage." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2024/07/18/apple-iphone-16-pro-max-apple-intelligence-ai-sales-demand-new-iphone/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you expect from a company whose advertising budget dwarfs R&D. >>>>>> >>>>>> But how does it actually matter how far someone is "behind" when the >>>>>> shiny new widget still isn't all that great, and doesn't actually >>>>>> reliably provide meaningful productivity gains? >>>>>> uttinf >>>>>> Case in point, AI asked to render salmon swimming upstream: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/yijd3c/they_asked_an_ai_engine_to_recreate_a_salmon/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ignoring the fact that AI is utterly useless and nothing more than >>>>> another fad gimmick ... >>>> >>>> Well, it may be a fad .. or perhaps not (at least for certain niches). >>>> Real point is that it is still formative and immature today. >>> [snip] >>> >>> Yeah, I personally dislike AI. >> >> As far as I can find, the only people who actually like AI are those >> making money from creating it or pointlessly adding it to every product >> they sell to get gullible to upgrade yet again. :-\ > > "AI" has so many different meanings that it depends on who you ask. > > Most "AI" is some form of statistical modelling - ML, ANN, DL, CNN - which > has been around for decades and is very powerful & useful. In the right > context. > > Trying to disentangle real AI - oxymoron? - versus snakeoil "AI" is tricky. > Even in the scientific community there's little distinction by the funders, > propagating the uncertainty. Yeah, I wish companies would just say like "algorithm" or "learning model". -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-20 03:09 +0000
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Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-21 01:59 +0000
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-07-20 22:06 -0400
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Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-07-21 10:03 -0400
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Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-21 17:24 -0700
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-07-22 10:10 +1200
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Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-31 05:50 +0000
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Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-07-21 10:03 -0400
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-21 14:23 +0000
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-07-21 19:06 -0400
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-22 02:29 +0000
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Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-07-22 10:46 -0400
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Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-21 05:24 +0000
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Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-07-31 19:35 +1200
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2024-07-31 10:20 +0000
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-31 09:24 -0700
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-07-31 15:24 +0000
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-02 06:00 +0000
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Norman Sylvia <iliketowatch@cox.net> - 2024-07-20 20:33 -0400
Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-07-21 15:29 +1200
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