Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence)

From	Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject	Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence)
Date	2024-07-22 12:24 -0700
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On 2024-07-22 12:16, -hh wrote:
> On 7/22/24 11:06 AM, Andrew wrote:
>> -hh wrote on Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:46:05 -0400 :
>>
>>> nds more on R&D than all but three companies.
>>>
>>> Plus Apple clearly does a lot of "Make or Buy" business assessments to
>>> decide on where to prioritize their R&D investments.  This leads us back
>>> to his belief that no one company can be successful unless they
>>> personally invent and make every last component totally in-house, which
>>> is totally absurd and followed by literally no one.  Likewise, his
>>> apparent belief (also quite absurd) that every S&T project is always and
>>> immediately fully successful as originally envisioned.
>>>
>>> Reality for both is quite distant from these beliefs, which is why even
>>> his attempts to worship Android fall far short of this vision, as
>>> illustrated by how Android handset manufacturers *also* have had to
>>> outsource their modem chips to Qualcomm rather than to invent & fab them
>>> in-house like he's trying to ask of Apple.  Yeah, hypocritical.
>>>
>>> As I said, it shows that "Andrew" has never professionally worked on any
>>> technological development efforts ... except perhaps as their janitor.
>>
>> An adult would prove me wrong - but a child acts like hh just did above.
>>
>> The fact remains that nobody in high tech spends less than Apple on 
>> R&D as
>> a percentage of revenue ...
> 
> Oh, look, "as a percentage of revenue..": its a goalpost move attempt!
> 
> 
>> - and - plenty of phone companies spend more even
>> though none are anywhere near the size of Apple in terms of total 
>> revenue.
> 
> And of course you can clearly explain why that's relevant...right?
> 
> 
>> Alan Baker cannot dispute that fact because it's a well known fact.
> 
> Really?  I was under the impression that the Android fanboys keep on 
> harping that the total worldwide Android sales is bigger than Apple.
> Better go check your revenue numbers again...
> 
> ...and especially not get them confused with net profits.
> 
> 
> 
>> It's that lack of R&D that explains why Apple is five to ten years behind
>> Android technology - which - if you want to disprove - all you have to do
>> is list what iPhone technology is better than similar Android technology.
> 
> *Yawn* others have already done so
> 
>>
>> HINT: It's just as absurd to claim that AirTags are exclusively iPhone
>> technology as it would be to claim that Tiles are exclusively Android.
> 
> Because that's invalid because Tile isn't exclusively Android.
> 
> 
> 
>> Name a *single* exclusively iPhone technology that Apple has innovated 
>> upon
>> in the past five or ten years that is better than the equivalent Android.
>>
>> Hint: You can't.
> 
> Well, there is Apple Vision Pro's EyeSight Feature:  its innovative 
> enough that Meta has tried to file a patent clone/derivative of it:
> 
> 
> <https://www.patentlyapple.com/2024/07/monkey-see-monkey-do-meta-files-patent-designed-to-mimic-apple-vision-pros-eyesight-feature.html>
> 
>>
>> Why not?
>> Because Apple doesn't invest in R&D; Apple is all about marketing.
>>
>> Prove me wrong.
>> That's what an adult would do.
> 
> Already done, repeatedly.  Now "adult up" and accept being wrong.

Good luck with that.

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  Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-19 20:16 -0700
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