Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: candycanearter07 Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: The facts show Apple is two generations behind Android in AI (artificial intelligence) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 06:00:02 -0000 (UTC) Organization: the-candyden-of-code Lines: 59 Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2024 08:00:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c019fcf938d6f719ee323756ceea5c25"; logging-data="2823947"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19J9N22CszPHb34tJn1aq7hRNDcZdoJLsvmCfYNE/vHyQ==" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dPAliLO5Aw8d6HXPyCxz15tlJEg= X-Face: b{dPmN&%4|lEo,wUO\"KLEOu5N_br(N2Yuc5/qcR5i>9-!^e\.Tw9?/m0}/~:UOM:Zf]% b+ V4R8q|QiU/R8\|G\WpC`-s?=)\fbtNc&=/a3a)r7xbRI]Vl)r<%PTriJ3pGpl_/B6!8pe\btzx `~R! r3.0#lHRE+^Gro0[cjsban'vZ#j7,?I/tHk{s=TFJ:H?~=]`O*~3ZX`qik`b:.gVIc-[$t/e ZrQsWJ >|l^I_[pbsIqwoz.WGA] wrote at 15:24 this Wednesday (GMT): > Your Name wrote: >> On 2024-07-31 05:50:03 +0000, candycanearter07 said: >>> -hh wrote at 02:01 this Sunday (GMT): >>>> Your Name wrote: >>>>> On 2024-07-20 11:07:59 +0000, -hh said: >>>>>> On 7/19/24 11:09 PM, Andrew wrote: >>>>>>> "Meanwhile, all of those benefits are available on Android and have been >>>>>>> since Google introduced the idea of an AI-first smartphone in October 2024 >>>>>>> during the Pixel 8 launch. With Google's Pixel 9 family due to be announced >>>>>>> in August, Apple's iPhone will be two generations behind Android's AI >>>>>>> efforts before it has even left the Cupertino stage." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2024/07/18/apple-iphone-16-pro-max-apple-intelligence-ai-sales-demand-new-iphone/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you expect from a company whose advertising budget dwarfs R&D. >>>>>> >>>>>> But how does it actually matter how far someone is "behind" when the >>>>>> shiny new widget still isn't all that great, and doesn't actually >>>>>> reliably provide meaningful productivity gains? >>>>>> uttinf >>>>>> Case in point, AI asked to render salmon swimming upstream: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ignoring the fact that AI is utterly useless and nothing more than >>>>> another fad gimmick ... >>>> >>>> Well, it may be a fad .. or perhaps not (at least for certain niches). >>>> Real point is that it is still formative and immature today. >>> [snip] >>> >>> Yeah, I personally dislike AI. >> >> As far as I can find, the only people who actually like AI are those >> making money from creating it or pointlessly adding it to every product >> they sell to get gullible to upgrade yet again. :-\ > > "AI" has so many different meanings that it depends on who you ask. > > Most "AI" is some form of statistical modelling - ML, ANN, DL, CNN - which > has been around for decades and is very powerful & useful. In the right > context. > > Trying to disentangle real AI - oxymoron? - versus snakeoil "AI" is tricky. > Even in the scientific community there's little distinction by the funders, > propagating the uncertainty. Yeah, I wish companies would just say like "algorithm" or "learning model". -- user is generated from /dev/urandom