Re: Home Movies on Apple TV

From	John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: Home Movies on Apple TV
Date	2015-08-28 22:31 -0700
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On 8/28/15   PDT 7:01 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2015-08-28 17:36, John McWilliams wrote:
>> On 8/28/15   PDT 11:06 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-27 21:17, John McWilliams wrote:
>>>> On 8/26/15   PDT 4:20 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-08-26 19:09, John McWilliams wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/25/15   PDT 1:42 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-25 12:20, John McWilliams wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/25/15   PDT 8:57 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-25 00:55, John McWilliams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> UHD is a wasteful farce.  You'd need a monster screen to actually
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> that level of detail from a normal distance and viewing
>>>>>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>>>> AFAIC BRD is just enough beyond resolving to be worth it.  For
>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>> movies DVD, upsampled by a really good BR player, is more than
>>>>>>>>> crisp
>>>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For you, but not for millions of others with discerning eyesight
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> aesthetics. To each his own. DVDs are soft and rotten.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My eyesight and aesthetics are more demanding than most which is
>>>>>>> why I
>>>>>>> see UH as utter tripe as few will get the high definition
>>>>>>> televisions of
>>>>>>> adequate size viewed adequately closely to benefit from the
>>>>>>> resolution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your opinion is your opinion. But you make many assumptions about how
>>>>>> others will use it. Sure, there'll be misuse, just as there are dolts
>>>>>> watching SD on HD sets when all they'd need do is select the right
>>>>>> channel.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are also a lot of dolts who buy monster cable and cable lifters
>>>>> and line power conditioners and so on (so they can hear their vinyl's
>>>>> better to boot).  Sad thing is that shit is expensive for zero return.
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't say that UH is the new MC, 'cause it ain't, I'll just say that
>>>>> for the very great majority of television viewers it is way beyond
>>>>> what
>>>>> they are going to set up in a viewing room.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And you talk of uprezzing?! Yes, good uprezzing can make a TV picture
>>>>>> better, but is a far cry from actual pixels properly interpreted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure.  But for 95% (probably more) of my pre-BR era DVD's it is not
>>>>> worth replacing them - so upsampling is more than enough.  I actually
>>>>> buy my DVD's for content that is beyond the technical visuals of it.
>>>>> You
>>>>> should pay attention - some have drama or comedy or tragedy or a life
>>>>> lesson far beyond the fricking x times y pixels to the point that the
>>>>> image quality is not what you're looking at.
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the uppity lecture. I prefer my dramas, etc. to have not
>>>> only
>>>> content worth watching, but excellent PQ.
>>>
>>> The other day watched a recent movie.  Still Alice.  Happened to be
>>> BluRay.  The image quality contributed nothing to the movie.
>>
>> That means, it meant nothing to you. Others have other druthers.
>>   > Watched
>>> another movie "The Judge".  BluRay.  Image Quality contributed to a
>>> couple early establishment shots[1].  That's all.
>>>
>> Again, for you.
>
> For most.

!! Most!! - MacDonald's? Microsoft? Pabst Blue Ribbon? Fords and 
Chevies? Sigma cameras? I'm sure others will find additional crap that's 
in the majority. OK, Sigma doesn't count as it's not used by many, much 
less "most".

> Neither of these movies was about visual.

Few movies are "about visual", though great camera work, direction, and 
HQ film all add to my enjoyment of any and every film.

> To be content with
> BR is fine, but these would have been fine on DVD as well.  Even Beta.

For you, and if you insist, most.

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Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-21 18:05 +0000
  Re: Home Movies on Apple TV nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-21 16:36 -0400
    Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-23 18:40 +0000
      Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 12:04 -0400
        Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-08-28 11:56 -0400
          Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 14:07 -0400
  Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-22 10:12 -0400
    Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-22 08:48 -0700
      Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-22 22:10 +0000
        Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-23 00:42 +0000
          Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-23 01:42 +0000
            Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-23 02:11 +0000
              Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-23 22:34 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-24 01:04 +0000
          Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-23 13:09 -0700
      Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-22 20:20 -0400
        Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-23 01:02 +0000
          Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-23 09:29 -0400
            Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-23 14:51 +0000
              Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 12:02 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-24 16:17 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 17:57 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-25 01:07 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:52 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-25 09:05 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 12:15 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-25 01:08 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-24 21:55 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:57 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-25 09:20 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-25 13:50 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 14:23 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:46 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-26 16:06 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:13 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-26 16:04 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:11 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 00:53 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 07:53 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-27 18:15 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:17 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 10:08 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 14:03 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 14:08 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 14:28 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:42 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-26 16:09 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:20 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-27 18:17 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 14:06 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 14:36 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 22:01 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 22:31 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-29 07:46 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:53 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-25 19:31 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-08-25 18:29 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-25 18:58 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:39 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-26 16:12 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 20:19 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-25 13:59 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:58 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-25 19:30 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:47 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:37 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:10 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-27 14:10 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 01:00 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-27 08:36 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-28 23:19 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-28 17:52 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 22:02 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-25 21:28 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:09 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-25 13:57 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:57 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-25 21:28 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-26 19:09 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-27 14:15 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-27 18:12 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-27 17:32 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-28 00:23 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-27 20:25 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-28 00:38 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 14:02 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-28 12:36 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-28 22:00 -0400
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-28 19:18 -0700
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-28 08:36 +0000
                Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-27 17:30 -0400
          Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-23 18:31 +0000
            Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-23 13:14 -0700
            Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 17:29 -0400
        Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-23 13:12 -0700
          Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 12:07 -0400
            Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-24 11:04 -0700
              Re: Home Movies on Apple TV Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-24 17:59 -0400
  Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-22 08:47 -0700
    Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-23 18:38 +0000
      Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-23 13:06 -0700
        Re: Home Movies on Apple TV "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-24 23:15 +0000
          Re: Home Movies on Apple TV gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-08-24 16:54 -0700
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