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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.setup |
| Subject | Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously powerful, that's why! |
| Date | Sat, 16 Apr 2011 04:11:38 +0100 |
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JEDIDIAH wrote: > On 2011-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> JEDIDIAH wrote: >>> On 2011-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> JEDIDIAH wrote: >>>> >>>>> Or are you just offended by the way xsane looks and the fact that it >>>>> exposes the technical elements of scanning to you (which you can pretty >>>>> much ignore most of the time)? >>>>> >>>> I think that says it all >>>> >>>> I have found that may things you can do in the way of technical issues >>>> - 1 break saned/scanner comms. HORRIBLE noises from stepper motors >>>> hitting end stops >>>> - 2 are better done post processing anyway using e.g. the Gimp e.g >>>> gamma/color correction >>>> - 3 ergo are needlessly and confusingly on display. Not even hidden >>>> behind 'advanced' type buttons. >>> In other words you're complaining that it is a proper tool for what >>> it does rather than pretending to be something with so few meaningful >>> features as to not scare the rubes. >>> >>> [deletia] >>> >>> No. Hiding meaningful features of the scanner is not good GUI design. >>> >> That entirely depends on your target audience. > > No it doesn't. > > If it doesn't concern you, don't fixate on it. > > GUIs are supposed to empower people to explore and learn and try things > out. If the GUI is intentionally crippled then it can do none of that. If > the user is unwilling or unable to explore, then there really is little > value in a GUI for them. > No. GUIS are meant to make admin and other tasks simpler. The windows and Mac paradigm is to make them simple by removing functionality MOST Linux guis are better than that, they hide under 'advanced' type options the full functionality, but don't remove it altogether. Xsane shoves it all on the front page. Compare a decent gui admin system like e.g. firefox.
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