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Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously

From "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.setup
Subject Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously
Date 2011-04-15 02:34 -0400
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On 04/15/2011 02:18 AM, RayLopez99 wrote:
> Why would anybody run Linux in a virtual OS program like VMware?

Assuming that your question is a serious one, the only answers I can
think of are along the lines of when someone is working somewhere that
uses Windows on the workstations, but Linux on the servers.  Though even
then, presumably in that sort of situation you'd have a testing
environment instead of having to test on a VM.

	--- Mike

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Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously RayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com> - 2011-04-14 23:18 -0700
  Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us> - 2011-04-15 02:34 -0400
    Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2011-04-15 09:21 +0200
      Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 07:30 +0000
        Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2011-04-15 10:54 +0200
          Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 09:40 +0000
      Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2011-04-15 11:56 +0200
        Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2011-04-15 11:31 +0200
          Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2011-04-15 13:16 +0200
            Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 12:21 +0100
            Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 13:55 -0500
        Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 09:43 +0000
          Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 10:59 +0100
            Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 10:12 +0000
              Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 11:19 +0100
                Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-15 06:50 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 12:16 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-15 11:55 +0000
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 13:30 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-15 08:56 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 14:44 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-15 11:05 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 14:10 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 14:06 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 20:41 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 15:52 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 22:58 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 21:40 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-16 04:11 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-16 15:14 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-18 07:32 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-18 17:19 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-15 12:00 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 14:05 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-15 11:59 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 14:12 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 22:52 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously powerful, that's why! "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us> - 2011-04-15 17:07 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-15 07:31 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 13:50 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 14:00 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 20:34 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 21:38 +0200
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-15 16:15 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 16:14 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 15:48 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-15 21:09 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 15:47 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us> - 2011-04-15 10:39 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 13:59 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us> - 2011-04-15 17:10 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-15 19:04 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 01:40 +0200
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-15 20:04 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us> - 2011-04-16 14:13 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us> - 2011-04-16 14:06 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-16 14:16 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-16 15:12 -0500
            Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-15 06:45 -0400
              Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 12:11 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us> - 2011-04-15 10:47 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 19:35 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us> - 2011-04-15 17:22 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously "Michael B. Trausch" <mike@trausch.us> - 2011-04-15 10:49 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 19:33 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-15 10:58 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 19:42 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-15 21:05 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 14:19 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-15 21:13 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Wond <jetodd@bcsuperNOTnet.com> - 2011-04-15 15:09 +0000
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 19:45 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-15 18:01 +0000
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 20:06 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-15 20:56 +0000
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 22:54 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-15 20:59 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-16 03:40 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-16 06:07 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-16 17:43 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-17 10:24 +0000
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-17 08:00 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-17 07:57 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-17 13:30 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-17 09:39 -0700
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-17 17:59 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-17 13:21 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-17 10:23 -0700
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-17 19:21 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-17 11:31 -0700
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-17 19:36 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-17 11:55 -0700
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                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-16 09:46 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-16 17:53 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 18:55 +0200
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-16 13:02 -0400
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                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-16 13:14 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2011-04-16 13:12 -0700
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-16 13:01 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-16 15:11 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-17 10:26 +0000
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-17 11:48 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-17 12:09 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-17 17:14 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-17 20:22 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 05:20 -0700
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 14:31 +0200
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-28 13:57 +0100
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-28 09:35 -0400
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-05 09:43 -0500
                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-17 20:21 -0500
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            Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 14:22 -0500
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                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again? Seriously JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-15 21:35 -0500
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                Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-16 00:09 -0700
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  Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-15 10:34 +0100
  Re: Why do I need to run Linux again?  Seriously John <john@nowhere.com> - 2011-04-15 10:59 -0400
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