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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: uefi malware--threat to all? |
| Date | 2023-03-08 20:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lh4ndjxt3o.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <tu9f64$fsgs$6@dont-email.me> <wwvlek7ehzm.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <tu9n8o$fsgs$8@dont-email.me> <wwvv8jbff7e.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <tuaien$fsgs$21@dont-email.me> |
On 2023-03-08 18:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 08/03/2023 15:14, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: >> >>> On 08/03/2023 08:59, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: >>>>> I think the issue is that really the niche that Linux occupies is >>>>> dwindling as is Windows and MacOSX. >>>>> >>>>> The era of the desktop/laptop is ending. >>>> Servers aren’t going away and Linux is huge in that market (which is >>>> one >>>> reason why the theories about Linux being locked out of motherboards by >>>> secure boot are nonsense). >>>> >>> Yeah. That's certainly true. What I was thinking - maybe not 100% >>> accurately - is that home/end users rather than competent admins >>> would be the ones put off by complex booting. >>> >>> And that is the market a that is all going essentially >>> embedded/cloud. And is the market that is increasingly where >>> Apple/Microsoft are concentrating. >>> >>> It is pretty much established that if its a server, its running Linux. >>> In terms of user interface devices, it is Android/IOS unless its a >>> desktop laptop, where it's overwhelmingly Windows. >>> >>> My point was, how much is the desktop/laptop market going to continue? >>> >>> Its lost the home market to mobile devices. Its only in the office >>> that it still exists. >> >> There’s a whole chunk of people who have a smartphone and don’t really >> need anything else, certainly. >> >> Surviving use cases for desktops & laptops that I’m aware of: >> >> - Many fields of employment, as you say. >> >> - Education (at many levels). Coursework on a smartphone sounds like a >> thoroughly unpleasant experience. You could plug your phone into a >> screen and keyboard and use SaaS tools, sure, but at that point it’s >> easier to carry around a laptop. >> >> - Gaming. A big enough market that it get its own category of gaming >> laptop, and there’s no shortage of people prepared to spend serious >> money on a gaming desktop. >> >> - Photography. Smartphones have totally captured casual photography but >> the people who are still buying DSLRs also want a decent environment >> for editing their photos. >> >> - Miscellenous hobbyists. Lots of tiny use cases but they add up. >> e.g. you probably can research and organize your family tree with just >> a smartphone but it’s not going to be much fun. Ditto any of a >> thousand other activities. >> >> There’s some irrationality buried in there, no doubt. Is a few FPS more >> in a game really worth dropping a four-figure sum on a new graphics >> card? Do you really need a gaming desktop instead of a PS4? But the >> market is still there even so. >> > Yep. but these are all specialised and professional uses. I think I > said design at one point. I know someone who paints extremely well on an > Ipad. But not as you say a phone > My point is that the desktop is in retreat to niches, and the fondle > slab or phone is infinitely preffered by οι πολλοι... Almost anybody doing work needs a computer. You can not type documents on a phone or tablet, not spreadsheets, databases... Imagine typing a novel. Replying to hundreds of emails per day. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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Re: uefi malware--threat to all? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-08 17:59 +0000
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Re: uefi malware--threat to all? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-07 21:38 +0000
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Re: uefi malware--threat to all? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-08 11:06 +0000
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