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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Unix time |
| Date | 2022-11-24 12:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <e5245j-m2c.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (11 earlier) <2hou4j-f2h.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <tliqbb$493c$2@dont-email.me> <e0Gdncb0PYH4MuD-nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <mrd15j-abs.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <b3KdnS65_dqhZOP-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
On 2022-11-24 05:55, 26C.Z969 wrote: > On 11/23/22 6:47 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2022-11-23 06:28, 26C.Z969 wrote: >>> On 11/22/22 10:37 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 22/11/2022 11:31, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2022-11-22 03:59, 26C.Z968 wrote: >>>>>> On 11/19/22 5:58 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>> On 19/11/2022 04:28, 26C.Z968 wrote: >>>>>>>> "ifconfig" alone gives you a list >>>>>>>> of your devices and all the relevant numbers, no >>>>>>>> bullshit. 95% of the time that's all I ever need. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I want to know if I have any milk left in the fridge, I open >>>>>>> the door and look. I don't need an app that lists every item >>>>>>> including those which are not there any more with sell by dates >>>>>>> on a smart phone >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, they have "smart fridges" that will spy >>>>>> on everything you have in there and report it >>>>>> to you (and probably a bunch of other people, >>>>>> including the govt and all the health insurance >>>>>> companies) ... >>>>>> >>>>>> But yea ... simpler IS usually "better". The older >>>>>> -ix utilities tell you exactly what you almost >>>>>> always NEED to know without any BS or mile-long >>>>>> list of params. You can really shorten yer pgms >>>>>> too by running them and parsing the straightforward >>>>>> data they return. Why rewrite sysutils when you >>>>>> can just use them direct ? >>>>>> >>>>>> And how much beer is in the fridge ? OPEN it >>>>>> and LOOK ....... >>>>> >>>>> Open and look costs money. >>>>> >>>> Not very much. >>>> >>>> Deduct it from the extra capital cost of a smart fridge, and see how >>>> loind it takes to break even. >>>> >>>> I met a guy owne. 5.7 liter 8 US car. Did 15 to the gallon. I sdaid >>>> 'why nmot buuy a car with te same power, but European , at twice the >>>> mpg >>>> >>>> He said 'it only cost me 5 grand. That's 8 less than the European >>>> car. You can buy a lot of petrol for £8000' >>> >>> Hey, I *like* that .... a sensible person who can >>> work a calculator :-) >>> >>> As for the 'dumb' fridge costing money ... you were >>> walking past it scratching your ass anyway, so LOOK >>> INSIDE .... >>> >>> Oh, and "smart" fridges still have to maintain X-mass >>> at Y-degrees, so they're no more efficient and opening >>> the door once in awhile amounts to about zilch extra >>> energy use. >> >> No, this is not true. Opening the door amounts a significant extra >> energy use. How much, I do not know. Maybe someone has measured it. It >> takes some. Nil, no way. > > Umm ... I'm gonna dispute that. The thermal mass of > the box and contents significantly buffer any effects > from actually opening the thing for ten seconds. > > Also, the "smart" aspects ... what's that, 25 watts > continuous ? Then, as mentioned, there's all the > downstream energy usage to process/present said data. > > This is something that could benefit from a good > anal-retentive energy-profile analysis. Claims are > one thing, the hard figures something else entirely. I said I am not going to buy an smart fridge. But opening the door means some energy is wasted. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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