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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Unix time |
| Date | 2022-11-23 12:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mrd15j-abs.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (9 earlier) <tlacsi$378s7$1@dont-email.me> <Ve2dnUaHeaispuH-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <2hou4j-f2h.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <tliqbb$493c$2@dont-email.me> <e0Gdncb0PYH4MuD-nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
On 2022-11-23 06:28, 26C.Z969 wrote: > On 11/22/22 10:37 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 22/11/2022 11:31, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2022-11-22 03:59, 26C.Z968 wrote: >>>> On 11/19/22 5:58 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 19/11/2022 04:28, 26C.Z968 wrote: >>>>>> "ifconfig" alone gives you a list >>>>>> of your devices and all the relevant numbers, no >>>>>> bullshit. 95% of the time that's all I ever need. >>>>> >>>>> Amen. >>>>> >>>>> If I want to know if I have any milk left in the fridge, I open the >>>>> door and look. I don't need an app that lists every item including >>>>> those which are not there any more with sell by dates on a smart >>>>> phone >>>> >>>> Well, they have "smart fridges" that will spy >>>> on everything you have in there and report it >>>> to you (and probably a bunch of other people, >>>> including the govt and all the health insurance >>>> companies) ... >>>> >>>> But yea ... simpler IS usually "better". The older >>>> -ix utilities tell you exactly what you almost >>>> always NEED to know without any BS or mile-long >>>> list of params. You can really shorten yer pgms >>>> too by running them and parsing the straightforward >>>> data they return. Why rewrite sysutils when you >>>> can just use them direct ? >>>> >>>> And how much beer is in the fridge ? OPEN it >>>> and LOOK ....... >>> >>> Open and look costs money. >>> >> Not very much. >> >> Deduct it from the extra capital cost of a smart fridge, and see how >> loind it takes to break even. >> >> I met a guy owne. 5.7 liter 8 US car. Did 15 to the gallon. I sdaid >> 'why nmot buuy a car with te same power, but European , at twice the mpg >> >> He said 'it only cost me 5 grand. That's 8 less than the European car. >> You can buy a lot of petrol for £8000' > > Hey, I *like* that .... a sensible person who can > work a calculator :-) > > As for the 'dumb' fridge costing money ... you were > walking past it scratching your ass anyway, so LOOK > INSIDE .... > > Oh, and "smart" fridges still have to maintain X-mass > at Y-degrees, so they're no more efficient and opening > the door once in awhile amounts to about zilch extra > energy use. No, this is not true. Opening the door amounts a significant extra energy use. How much, I do not know. Maybe someone has measured it. It takes some. Nil, no way. > The electronics in the 'smart' fridge likely > use up MORE energy both internally AND in all the > support devices - up to and including your PC/phone - > that have to receive/interpret said data. > > I'm gonna add to an oldie ... "Lies, Damned Lies, > Statistics and ENERGY-EFFICIENCY CLAIMS :-) > > All yer little e-mobiles will NEVER pay off their > energy/carbon debts coming from all that's required > to make them run (and we're not even getting into > the slave labor thing). If a few percent have > e-mobiles then they can LEACH off the existing > energy infrastructure ... but if EVERYBODY gets > them then that entire infrastructure has to be > rebuilt to handle the load. > > (Oh, horrible Truth, ASPHALT is a petroleum product. > What ya gonna build your roads out of if no more > oil ? Concrete ? Look up how much energy THAT > requires to make ....) > -- Cheers, Carlos.
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Re: [OT] Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-11 11:46 +0000
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