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| Subject | Re: Unix time |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
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| From | "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> |
| Date | 2022-11-06 22:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <VoydnVzPnbnd4PX-nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> (permalink) |
On 11/6/22 10:43 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 11/5/22 19:02, 26C.Z968 wrote: >> On 10/29/22 10:51 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> On 10/28/22 01:51, Andrei Z. wrote: >>>> "Time is an illusion, Unix time doubly so..." >>>> >>>> https://www.netmeister.org/blog/epoch.html >>>> >>>> Discussion on Hacker News >>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33341652 >>> >>> Wait until you are over 80 to tell us time is >>> an illusion. Time is duration aka how long something >>> lasts. I have lasted with changes over 85 years. >>> Unix time is as long as Unix lasts and is >>> a useful idea. >>> >>> bliss-the ineluctable, formerly implacable. >> >> >> Unix time will outlast Unix. It has been used as a >> basis for "big important expensive data" for so >> long that we're stuck with it. Unix (and all others) >> WILL go away - 25 years probably - as all-purpose >> "AI" style omnisystems - which can pretend to be >> any old system as a side-feature kinda like yer >> phone can be a calculator, watch and pocket pager - >> become practical all-consuming "must-have"s. >> >> And the eventual "AI"s ... think kind of like >> "Jarvis" in those Iron Man movies. Of course >> he WILL spy on you for the govt and industry >> and intentionally try to lead you in directions >> of thought and action which serve those masters, >> and blab if you don't ...... > > At 85 yoa I doubt AI will have much of anything to > do with me in 25 years or earlier. On the other hand in > China proper, not Taiwan, the authorities have already instituted > what appears to be adequate surveillance by cell phone with > Social Credit rewards to reward Good Thought/Action, punish the > less good action with with Cell phones. Only the leaders escape > this tight control. If we had the same thing with the leaders > included it might be good. The leaders less than good actions > are worse than those of private citizens because they affect > all the citizens and perhaps those outside its national borders. > > Back in my distant youth I read I believe a SF story in > Worlds of If SF magazine a world in which helpers were devised > supposedly to help people remember important matters. Not > depicting miniaturization the ultimate version sat astride > the shoulders and gave electrical shocks to make sure you > got to appointment and to your work station on time. The > Chinese authorities have not figured that out but with cell > phones have figured out other was to enforce conformance. > > bliss - ancient of days, young at heart... "Young at heart" MAY get you to the AI takeover :-) But yea, they DID use Orwell as a "How To" handbook. Alas even Orwell didn't imagine smart-phones ... with people VOLUNTEERING to carry around the spy devices. Those "helpers" ... sounds like what Musk is working on. The implants will be "for your own good" of course ... It's a close parallel to an old (50s) three or four page SF by Heinlein where everybody was fitted with shock/noise devices to cripple those with capabilities anywhere above 'equitable' normal. Visionary. Of course now they're crippled by Twitter/FB/etc ... fed crap and pablum and alleged "what everybody thinks/knows" until their brains rot away. At SOME point, this Dali-Verse WILL implode. It's just not sustainable. The Powers will push it and push it, getting further and further away from reality, until nobody knows what's what, what to do, what's real - and then BOOM. Can't run yer life, much less whole countries, like that.
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Re: [OT] Unix time "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-11-24 13:26 +0100
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Re: [OT] Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-24 14:09 +0000
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Re: [OT] Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-24 19:40 +0000
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Re: [OT] Unix time "26C.Z969" <26C.Z969@noaada.net> - 2022-11-26 23:36 -0500
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Re: Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-18 23:37 -0500
Re: Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-19 11:01 +0000
Re: Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-19 22:06 -0500
Re: Unix time Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2022-11-21 13:03 +0000
Re: Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-21 21:40 -0500
Re: Unix time Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2022-11-07 10:17 +0000
Re: Unix time Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2022-11-06 07:43 -0800
Re: Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-06 22:35 -0500
Re: Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-07 06:12 +0000
Re: Unix time Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-11-07 06:21 +0000
Re: Unix time Harold Stevens <wookie@limbo.localdomain> - 2022-11-07 02:44 -0600
Re: Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-07 15:42 +0000
Re: Unix time Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-11-07 16:44 +0000
Re: Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-09 00:46 -0500
Re: Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-09 00:32 -0500
Re: Unix time Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2022-11-09 08:13 -0800
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Re: Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-16 00:18 -0500
Re: Unix time Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-11-16 18:13 +0000
Re: Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-17 00:41 -0500
Re: Unix time Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2022-11-22 18:21 +0000
Re: Unix time "26C.Z969" <26C.Z969@noaada.net> - 2022-11-23 00:31 -0500
Re: Unix time not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2022-11-17 07:27 +1000
Re: Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-09 00:10 -0500
Re: Unix time Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-11-09 18:52 -0500
Re: [OT] Unix time Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2022-11-10 18:57 -0600
Re: [OT] Unix time G <g@nowhere.invalid> - 2022-11-11 10:42 +0000
Re: [OT] Unix time Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-11-12 19:42 +0000
Re: [OT] Unix time "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2022-11-11 12:20 +0100
Re: [OT] Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-11 11:46 +0000
Re: [OT] Unix time Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2022-11-11 18:39 +0000
Re: [OT] Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-11 17:50 -0500
Re: [OT] Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-12 11:15 +0000
Re: [OT] Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-14 23:34 -0500
Re: [OT] Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-15 11:10 +0000
Re: [OT] Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-16 00:11 -0500
Re: [OT] Unix time Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-16 08:54 +0000
Re: [OT] Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-18 23:58 -0500
Re: [OT] Unix time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-19 11:04 +0000
Re: [OT] Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-19 22:16 -0500
Re: [OT] Unix time Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-19 13:16 +0000
Re: [OT] Unix time "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net> - 2022-11-19 22:51 -0500
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