Re: Gparted questions

Subject	Re: Gparted questions
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From	"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net>
Date	2023-02-01 00:30 -0500
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On 1/30/23 7:25 PM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> Is it advisable to refromat the entire hard drive?
> 
> Since no OS works any more, may I use GParted?

   If nothing works then nothing works - so you may as
   well do a total reformat.

> How do you put a partition inside a partition?

   You don't REALLY do that.

   Go to the "Device" tab, pick "Create a Partition Table".

   I would recommend a "GPT" partition.

   If you go with the "MSDOS"/MBR style partitioning scheme
   then you will have to create an "extended partition" if
   you need more than four partitions. With GPT (today's
   de-facto standard) you can create lots and lots of
   partitions no problem.

   If you need UEFI, then your very first partition should
   be a FAT-32, 128mb to 512mb in size. Smaller usually
   does it.

   HOWEVER, if you ARE starting from scratch then just install
   a standard linux distro like Debian from a USB stick or DVD.
   It will create the UEFI partition and set all the little
   status flags correctly. However MANUAL control of new partitions,
   like for Debian, will be needed so it won't use up the entire
   damned disk. The alt is to do a Deb install and then use a USB
   stick with a 'live' linux so you can run gparted on the disk
   and SHRINK the Deb partition. You can't gparted on the partition
   you're running from.

   If you use WINDERS ... well then ... things get uglier. You
   can indeed make a "dual boot" drive. Alas Winders thinks it
   owns the universe so it has to be installed FIRST and then
   you have to SHRINK the Winders partition to make space for
   anything else (ControlPanel->Administrative Tools->DiskManagement).
   You can also use gparted from a USB stick, gparted-live.
   Then you install a Linux in the empty space. GRUB2 will be
   installed automatically and you will get a boot menu when
   the box starts - Linux or Winders. But WHY would you want
   Winders ??????

   Note, heavy-duty Winders fix-it utilities will REMOVE Grub2
   and re-assert the WinderVerse model on the disk. Bill Gates
   does NOT like competition. A more difficult alt is to set
   up Linux/Unix/Grub on a completely different drive and
   then use the PC's BIOS options to boot THAT disk when you want.

> 
> WHat are the recommended partition sizes? For a 500GB HD, I want a 650MB pure
> DOS partition, then WIn XP (100GB?) then QUantian
> (Knoppix, Debian, somewhat old/legacy)
> (Ext4, Swap, data partitons???)
> 
> Can the shared DATA partition be inside the extended partiton holding Unix
> and SWAP? Win3 used a swap file, can (should?) I get Win XP to share the SWAP
> with Linux?
> 
> XP wants chkdsk/reformat of Win7 partiton. Is it complaining about NTFS or MBR?
> I thought I reformatted the Win7 partiton already.

   ??? The newer version of Winders rules. If you have Win-11 or Win-10
   then IGNORE anything Vista/XP/W2k/etc wants to do. I'd suggest running
   them as virtual machines anyhow ... VirtualBox works fine - you can
   even run CP/M-86 ... the "other disk" that came with the IBM-PCs.

   Though insider rumors are that MicroSquish is going down the same,
   sane, path as Apple ... ie converting more and more to a Linux/Unix
   underlying system ... they are disguising this and you won't really
   see anything Linux-ish for quite awhile. Winders is a HORRIBLE OS,
   packed full of 30 years of fix-ups, compromises and vulnerabilities.
   Nobody there understands how it works anymore - they just practice
   patch-n-hope. It's a lost cause. Winders WILL become a Linux/Unix
   pretty soon for sheer SURVIVAL reasons.

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