Re: Gparted questions

Subject	Re: Gparted questions
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From	"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net>
Date	2023-02-08 00:22 -0500
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On 2/7/23 7:39 AM, Dan Espen wrote:
> "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> writes:
> 
>> On 2/6/23 10:05 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
>>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> 26C.Z968 <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 2/3/23 9:23 AM, Rich wrote:
>>>>>> 26C.Z968 <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/2/23 9:28 AM, Jim Jackson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2023-02-02, 26C.Z968 <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        STILL have to use Ctrl-Z to quit Python3 in Linux ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> errrr..... On my linux system Ctrl-D quits, CTtrl-Z puts python in the
>>>>>>>> background but stopped.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      I use Deb derivs with bash. If I "python3" then only
>>>>>>>      Ctl-Z seems to make it stop. You'd think they'd put
>>>>>>>      a "quit" command into python eh ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They did:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        $ rlwrap python3
>>>>>>        Python 3.7.2 (default, Feb  4 2020, 00:09:47)
>>>>>>        [GCC 4.8.2] on linux
>>>>>>        Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>>>        >>> exit()
>>>>>>        $
>>>>>
>>>>>     "rlwrap" ? Never needed it.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/hanslub42/rlwrap
>>>>
>>>>      rlwrap is a 'readline wrapper', a small utility that uses the GNU
>>>>      Readline library to allow the editing of keyboard input for any
>>>>      command.
>>> Sure looks to me like Python is either using readline or doing a
>>> real
>>> good imitation.
>>
>>    Well, it's kinda 'readline()' but aimed at the keyboard
>>    instead of a disk file. In Linux at least most everything
>>    *is* a file, or treated as such, at some level. The trick
>>    is FINDING the 'keyboard file' without a bunch of really
>>    hairy code like dealing with displays in 'X' ....
>>
>>    Hmm ... a brainfart from the old days ... is there a Python
>>    library that'll let you poke stuff into the keyboard buffer ?
>>    Great way to emulate user input real fast for apps that
>>    demand "user interaction".
> 
> More information on how Python uses either readline or libedit:
> 
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/readline.html
> 
> Sure looks to me like "rlwrap" is not needed.

   I've never needed to use it in a dozen years
   of Python. MAY have some obscure applications
   however.

   DO wanna know the latest trix in poking the
   keyboard buffer though ... FINDING it is
   the first big trick. These days it's all
   very 'abstracted' - local instances buried
   really deep with obscure names and such.
   OK for most uses UNLESS you wanna automatically
   put text into annoying prompts/forms over and
   over and over.

   I kinda stayed away from Python for a long time,
   mostly because I don't like slow interpreted
   languages - gimme executables anytime. However
   once the "improved" P3 got semi-decent I decided
   to give it a shot. It ain't bad and, at this
   point, really kinda DOES have a library for
   *everything*. There's stuff that's (near)
   impossible/incomprehensible in 'C' that's super
   easy in P3.

   DO wish Python used formal bracketed ops instead
   of relying on indent alone ..... 'C' {} or
   Pascal Begin End are clearer and surer.

   Gotta see what P4 is gonna DO to my P3 programs
   though. They'll have a new, "improved", paradigm
   after all and it'll take YEARS to port over all
   those old libraries  :-)

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