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| From | Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Date | 2024-10-01 13:30 -1000 |
| Organization | Wheeler&Wheeler |
| Message-ID | <871q0zv1sd.fsf@localhost> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
> somewhat like IBM's failed "Future System" effort (replacing all 370s)
> http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
> https://people.computing.clemson.edu/~mark/fs.html
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Future_Systems_project
>
> except FS was enormous amounts of microcode. i432 gave talk at early 80s
> ACM SIGOPS at asilomar ... one of their issues was really complex stuff
> in silicon and nearly every fix required new silicon.
I continued to work on 360/370 all during FS, even periodically
ridiculing what they were doing (which wasn't exactly career enhancing)
... during FS, 370 stuff was being killed off and claims lack of new 370
during FS gave the clone 370 system makers their market foothold. when
FS finally imploded (one of the final nails was analysis that if 370/195
applications were redone for FS machine made out of the fastest hardware
available, they would have throughput of 370/145 ... about 30times
slowdown) there was mad rush to get stuff back into the 370 product
pipelines, including kicking off the Q&D 3033&3081 efforts in parallel.
I have periodically claimed that John did 801/RISC to go the extreme
opposite of Future System (mid-70s there was internal adtech conference
where we presented 370 16-cpu multiprocessor and the 801/RISC group
presented RISC).
I got dragged into helping with a 370 16-cpu multiprocessor and we con
the 3033 processor engineers into working on it in their spare time (a
lot more interesting than remapping 370/168 logic to 20% faster chips).
Everybody thought it was great until somebody tells the head of POK that
it could be decades before the POK favorite son operating system ("MVS")
had effective 16-cpu support (at the time MVS docs had 2-cpu system
support with only 1.2-1.5 times the throughput of a 1-cpu system (I had
number of 2-cpu systems that had twice the throughput of single cpu
system) and head of POK invites some of us to never visit POK again
... and the 3033 processor engineers to keep their heads down and no
distractions. Note: POK doesn't ship a 16-cpu system until after the
turn of the century (more than two decades later).
--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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Re: The joy of Ada Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 12:02 +0100
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:35 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 20:54 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 09:32 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:30 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-04 05:26 -0600
Re: The joy of Ada Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-04 15:48 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 07:59 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-09-27 11:08 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 09:32 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-27 18:38 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
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Re: The pain of Excel Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:35 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:55 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:36 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 21:49 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 10:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:51 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 18:04 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:39 +0000
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Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-26 23:30 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 21:20 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 15:09 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-28 03:18 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 09:12 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 08:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:28 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-09-29 17:08 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:28 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 23:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 07:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 07:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 20:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:08 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-02 03:34 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-10-03 17:32 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:42 +0000
OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-09-30 08:36 -0700
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 17:00 +0100
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:57 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 00:51 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-09-30 20:32 -0700
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:37 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:02 +0100
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:43 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 13:51 +0100
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 19:00 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:18 +0100
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:41 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:34 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 19:03 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 22:00 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 02:40 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 03:05 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 07:29 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 08:30 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:46 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 18:11 +0100
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 22:33 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 23:53 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 02:10 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 03:48 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-03 10:56 +0100
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 15:34 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 18:38 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 22:26 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 03:26 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 03:54 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 10:47 +0100
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 19:39 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 22:24 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 23:55 +0000
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Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-04 10:21 +0200
Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 19:19 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-04 22:24 +0200
Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:06 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 19:22 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:30 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 23:14 +0000
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Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 23:14 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 03:17 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-10-05 19:04 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 03:12 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-05 02:37 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:24 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-05 12:40 +0100
Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 23:46 +0000
Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-06 15:58 -0700
Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 23:18 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-03 16:34 -0700
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 11:03 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 22:12 +0000
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:22 +0100
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:20 +0100
Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 22:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 14:43 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 18:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-01 09:29 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-01 13:30 -1000
Re: The joy of RISC Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:56 +0000
Re: The joy of RISC Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-01 15:39 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 12:48 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-10-03 16:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 22:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-10-03 22:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-03 15:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-04 16:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 10:41 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 12:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 22:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 23:44 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-07 07:56 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-03 23:07 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 10:44 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-10-09 18:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-09 16:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-10 01:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-10 07:25 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-10 10:16 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-11 01:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-11 14:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-11 18:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-11 17:59 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-11 21:17 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-11 23:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-12 00:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-12 07:03 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-12 02:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-12 02:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-12 17:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-12 21:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-13 00:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Schlomo Goldberg <schlomo.goldberg@mailinator.com> - 2024-10-12 02:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-12 07:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-11 19:05 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-10-10 18:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-11 10:59 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-11 18:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-11 19:04 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 22:38 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 07:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-30 04:08 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-01 00:56 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 18:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-01 21:28 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 12:57 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 02:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-01 23:48 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 07:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 08:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:21 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:14 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-02 08:24 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 18:41 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:37 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-05 01:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-05 02:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-05 11:55 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 02:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-06 06:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-06 11:41 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 13:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-06 11:38 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 18:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-06 22:02 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-06 07:05 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-06 15:58 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 23:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-07 03:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 06:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-07 18:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2024-10-07 19:17 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 20:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2024-10-07 20:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 20:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-08 11:18 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:09 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:08 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-01 23:27 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:06 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:52 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 22:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 22:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 01:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 01:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2024-10-02 20:13 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 03:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 05:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 05:59 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 18:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 15:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 21:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 22:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-02 23:03 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 15:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 18:39 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 22:21 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-03 09:56 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 18:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-03 20:44 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
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