Re: The joy of FORTRAN

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The joy of FORTRAN
Date	2024-10-06 18:00 +0000
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On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 11:38:07 +0200, D wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> I've worked closely with a couple of clients but in general it's not a
>> good idea to let programmers talk to the clients. Programmers don't
>> have very good filters.
>>
>>
> I never had any problems, but on the other hand, perhaps I either was
> lucky to never work with any madmen, or I'm a good judge of character.
> 
> All programmers I've worked with, except one, were generally very nice
> people, and the ones who had no interest in being involved in the
> commercial side, I would obviously not drag in front of the customer.

Nice has little to do with it. If the salesman is blowing a little smoke a 
programmer might inadvertently let the cat out of the bag. It's even worse 
if there is also a programmer from the client's company in the meeting and 
they start sharing notes.

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Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 22:38 -0400
  Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 07:26 +0000
    Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-30 04:08 -0400
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-01 00:56 -0400
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:54 -0700
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 18:44 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-01 21:28 +0200
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 12:57 -0700
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 02:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-01 23:48 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 07:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 08:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:14 +0100
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 18:41 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-10-17 14:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:37 -0600
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-05 01:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-05 02:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-05 11:55 +0200
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 02:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-06 06:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-06 11:41 +0200
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 13:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-06 11:38 +0200
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 18:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-06 22:02 +0200
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-06 07:05 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-06 15:58 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 23:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-07 03:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 06:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-07 18:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2024-10-07 19:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 20:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2024-10-07 20:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 20:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-08 11:18 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:09 +0100
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:08 +0100
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-01 23:27 -0400
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:06 +0100
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:52 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 22:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 22:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 01:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 01:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2024-10-02 20:13 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 03:50 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 05:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 05:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 18:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 15:34 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 21:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 22:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-02 23:03 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 15:34 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 17:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 18:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 22:21 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-03 09:56 +0100
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 18:31 +0000
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