Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN

From	Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN
Date	2024-09-30 23:34 +0000
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 14:19:49 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> I’m convinced that it was the conflicts between the popes and the
> temporal rulers led directly to democracy in the West.

Democracy predated Christianity by several centuries. The ancient Greeks, 
I think, had this cultural characteristic where they hated the idea of 
somebody thinking of themselves as better than anybody else. This applied 
to their rulers as well.

So they came up with the idea of checks and balances. Other nations, once 
they appointed somebody king, found it very hard to rein them in once they 
started to abuse their power. The Greeks came up with various solutions to 
this: for example, the Spartans had two kings, who kept an eye on each 
other. Another city-state came up with the idea of redistributing all the 
land every 20 years, to stop any one person becoming too rich (an early 
form of Communism, if you like).

And the Athenians, of course, came up with what they called “democracy”. 
We use the term nowadays, but we use it for quite a different concept from 
the way they practised it (because our concepts of equality and fairness 
have evolved a bit beyond the era of slavery and women as property).

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      Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-09-24 14:11 +0100
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            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 21:14 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 20:13 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-09-30 16:26 -0400
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:00 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 15:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:51 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 02:29 +0100
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:03 -0400
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-27 04:23 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-24 16:05 -1000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 02:40 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:18 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 09:07 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:30 +0000
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                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:50 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:06 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 06:55 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 09:08 -0700
                Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:21 +0000
                Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 16:25 -0700
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                Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-30 00:54 +0000
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                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:15 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:24 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:19 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-09-30 15:44 -0600
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:42 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-01 15:57 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:14 +0100
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                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 10:56 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
                Re: Recursion [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 01:22 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:48 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-03 03:04 -0600
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                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-04 10:59 +0000
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                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:10 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-01 15:39 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:06 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:34 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-02 15:48 -0400
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-03 10:33 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:30 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-03 08:59 +0100
                Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:47 +0000
                Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-03 08:58 +0100
                Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 15:34 +0000
                Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 21:52 +0000
                Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 03:46 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 11:09 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 13:52 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:27 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 15:00 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:21 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 16:27 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 13:43 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:58 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:15 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:51 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 14:59 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 22:17 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 16:07 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:54 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:57 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-03 00:17 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-09-30 21:22 -0300
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:31 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:38 +0000
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:43 -0700
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:19 +0100
                Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-30 23:28 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 14:42 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:29 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 17:53 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-24 20:01 +0200
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 00:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 04:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 17:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-25 07:13 -1000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-25 11:34 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:08 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-25 20:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-28 02:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 02:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 07:42 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 07:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-28 07:07 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-28 19:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:04 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-28 21:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:28 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:22 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 10:01 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 11:15 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 13:45 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 08:02 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:17 +0100
                Re: The joy of ALGOL-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:25 +0000
                Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-04 03:49 +0000
                Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 03:51 +0000
                Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-04 17:07 -1000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:26 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:11 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-09-30 16:51 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-30 20:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-30 19:03 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 16:53 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 16:39 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 23:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 17:36 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 17:41 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 21:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:06 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-29 02:57 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 08:34 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-28 15:17 -0700
                7-bit encodings (was: Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 00:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:16 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 16:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:12 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-09-30 21:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:10 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-09-29 07:58 +0000
                Into the woods of business Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 07:11 -0700
                Re: Into the woods of business vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-09-29 20:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-10-01 03:52 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-01 15:49 -0600
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-10-01 18:04 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-02 03:12 -0600
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:27 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-09-30 12:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 14:26 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 19:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 18:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 17:40 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:44 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:31 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 19:11 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-24 20:22 +0100
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 21:09 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:49 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 22:05 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:37 -0700
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 13:21 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2024-09-24 17:12 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 22:05 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2024-09-25 13:01 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 15:13 +0000
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-24 19:55 +0200
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 02:42 -0400
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 06:47 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 07:14 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 23:16 -0400
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-26 16:18 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-27 11:32 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-27 12:10 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-09-27 22:00 +0200
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 20:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 01:19 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 05:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 02:03 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 06:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 07:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 22:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-05 23:20 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-06 16:06 -0600
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-07 03:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-07 10:00 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-05 02:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-05 07:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 08:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 02:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 08:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 08:00 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:06 +0000
                Re: python abstractions, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-04 18:00 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 02:45 -0400
                Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 06:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Ada Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 12:02 +0100
                Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 20:54 -0400
                Re: The joy of Ada Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 09:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:30 -0400
                Re: The joy of Ada Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-04 05:26 -0600
                Re: The joy of Ada Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-04 15:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of Ada Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
                Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 07:59 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-09-27 11:08 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 09:32 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-27 18:38 +0200
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
                Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:41 +0000
                Re: The pain of Excel Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
                Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:35 +0000
                Re: The pain of Excel Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
                Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:55 +0000
                Re: The pain of Excel Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 21:49 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 10:36 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:51 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 18:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-01 11:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-01 15:39 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:58 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-26 23:30 +0100
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 21:20 -0400
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 15:09 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-28 03:18 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 09:12 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 08:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:28 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-09-29 17:08 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 23:36 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 07:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 07:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 20:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:08 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-02 03:34 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-10-03 17:32 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:42 +0000
                OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-09-30 08:36 -0700
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 17:00 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:57 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 00:51 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-09-30 20:32 -0700
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:37 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:02 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:43 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 13:51 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 19:00 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:18 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:41 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:34 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 19:03 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 22:00 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 02:40 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 03:05 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 07:29 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 08:30 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 16:46 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 18:11 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-02 22:33 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 23:53 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 02:10 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 03:48 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-03 10:56 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 15:34 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 18:38 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 22:26 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 03:26 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 03:54 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 10:47 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 19:39 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 22:24 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 23:55 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 00:38 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-03 18:11 -0700
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of Population Growth Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 01:46 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-04 10:20 +0200
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 10:39 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:06 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 19:46 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 10:33 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:06 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 03:01 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 03:53 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 07:45 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 10:44 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 19:44 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:32 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:31 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 23:52 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:16 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 10:39 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-04 16:40 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 21:05 +0100
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-05 02:37 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 02:20 +0000
                Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-03 10:52 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 22:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 23:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 00:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 02:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 03:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 07:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 23:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-04 16:46 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 08:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of 1950s Democracy John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-05 15:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-10-10 12:18 -0400
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-04 10:21 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 19:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-04 22:24 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 19:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 23:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-05 07:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 08:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-05 23:59 -0400
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 13:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-10-10 12:22 -0400
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 23:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-05 07:57 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-10-05 22:52 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-05 22:20 +0000

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