Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too

From	Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too
Date	2026-04-11 15:00 -0700
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On 4/11/26 14:26, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>> On Sat, 11 Apr 2026 08:37:29 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>> Potentially.  Remember that Apple's MacOS "Darwin" kernel is somehow
>>> bleshed with the Mach microkernel.  Not sure how difficult it would be
>>> to port a driver from (say) FreeBSD to Darwin proper...
>>
>> Apple was not hindered by ideological purity and got the microkernel
>> architecture to work. Hurd will be ready any day now.
> 
> As I understand it[1], the Darwin/XNU kernel contains pretty much
> everything you’d find in a traditional kernel, in a single shared kernel
> address space, much the same as Linux and most other Unixes back to the
> 1970s. So not really ‘microkernel architecture’ despite happening to
> contain the Mach codebase.
> 
>    [1] I’d welcome a correction if I’ve got this wrong.
> 
> Hurd in contrast genuinely is split into a couple of dozen independent
> servers.  For example, Hurd the server process implementing /dev/null
> can be found at
> https://github.com/joshumax/hurd/blob/master/trans/null.c - it has its
> own main() and everything.
> 
> --
> https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

	The Amiga ran well on a micro kernel but its hardware was fixed in its
original format and ran well but withoug memory protection in a maximum
of 8 Megabytes for the 68000 machines.
	
	I think that trying to build a micro-kernel to run on multiple hardware
architectures within the x86/AMD64 families is going to require an install
process capable of sorting out the hardware in the Hardware Application
Layer.  That is going to be a software machine with a large data library
of variations in hardware and in graphic card/systems to produced
that useful HAL but maybe it can be done if done in a way that takes
advantage of information on hardware gathered from all possible
sources about those variations in hardware.

bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2026.04- Linux 6.12.80 pclos1- KDE 
Plasma 6.6.4

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Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 20:51 +0000
  Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-05 14:54 -0700
  Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 22:14 +0000
  Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-05 19:15 -0400
    Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 23:43 +0000
      Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-05 17:10 -0700
        Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 00:27 +0000
          Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 00:36 +0000
            Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 04:46 +0000
              Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 07:08 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 09:06 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 20:35 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 20:55 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 02:41 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-06 20:23 -0700
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 08:02 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-07 08:39 -0700
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 19:13 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 19:38 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 12:51 +0200
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 14:15 +0100
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 02:48 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-08 21:19 -0700
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 08:53 +0100
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 12:13 +0200
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 23:13 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-10 11:55 +0200
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-13 11:47 -0700
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 07:45 -0700
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 23:14 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 15:17 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 18:57 +0200
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 17:30 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:18 +0100
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 09:45 +0100
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 14:20 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 02:49 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-08 21:20 -0700
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 23:25 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-10 09:00 +0100
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-10 21:57 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-08 17:47 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-08 10:58 -0700
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-06 17:38 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-06 11:04 -0700
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