Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too

From	"d.w." <trapper@freeke.org>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject	Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too
Date	2026-04-08 10:21 -0400
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Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2026 18:30:16 -0400, trapper wrote:
> 
>> Apple uses the same CAE, CFD, Electromagnetic, and EDA etc. solvers
>> as everyone else in the consumer electronics and manufacturing
>> industries to design these products.
>>
>> Everyone in the industry uses these solvers to design their
>> products, and they all run best on mainstream Linux distributions,
>> so that's where they run them.
> 
> Really?? Didn’t they run on Windows, once a upon a time? Some even on
> Mac? Are those days gone?

The computational grunt happens on huge Linux clusters. Many of the
relevant engineering solvers have pre- and post- processing 
stages that run on MacOS and Windows.

>> This entire thread is bonecrushingly stupid.
> 
> This sounds very much like a “sour grapes” response: products that
> don’t run on your platform are somehow less valuable

That's not what I said. At all.  What I said is that Apple (like
pretty much every successful organization) uses whichever tools
are best suited for a particular task.  Large computational
simulations run best on huge, parallel Linux clusters with
fast interconnects, so that's where they run them.
Only people with near-religious adherence to a given solution
ignore this.

> And so, having to tack on an entire competing platform

"competing" -- spoken like a person who's invested far too much 
identity in *.advocacy groups.

> extra bag on the side of your own platform, just as a clumsy way to
> get access to these products that are not available any other way, is
> somehow not a big admission of defeat at all, but somehow a clever
> thing to do, even though other platforms had figured it out long ago.

And somehow re-inventing the wheel out of some quest for purity
is a thing that actual successful companies do, OK.

-- 
d.w.
trapper@freeke.org

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Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 20:51 +0000
  Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-05 14:54 -0700
  Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 22:14 +0000
  Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-05 19:15 -0400
    Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 23:43 +0000
      Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-05 17:10 -0700
        Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 00:27 +0000
          Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 00:36 +0000
            Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 04:46 +0000
              Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 07:08 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 09:06 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 20:35 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 20:55 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 02:41 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-06 20:23 -0700
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-07 08:39 -0700
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 19:13 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 19:38 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-08 12:51 +0200
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 14:15 +0100
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 02:48 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-08 21:19 -0700
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 08:53 +0100
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-09 12:13 +0200
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 23:13 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 23:14 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 15:17 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:18 +0100
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 23:25 +0000
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