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Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too

From Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too
Date 2026-04-10 10:20 +0100
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On 2026-04-07, Brock McNuggets wrote:

> On Apr 7, 2026 at 3:49:40 AM MST, "Nuno Silva" wrote
> <10r2ng7$2ndnr$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 2026-04-07, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2026 at 5:04:18 PM MST, "Nuno Silva" wrote
>>> <10r1hm3$2eugg$6@dont-email.me>:
>>> 
>>>> On 2026-04-06, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What happened to Apple’s homegrown technological innovation? They are
>>>>> reduced to the point where, like Microsoft, they have to try and
>>>>> squeeze more revenue out of a declining platform, by any means
>>>>> necessary.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe that's not a bad thing, given the bad impact Apple has had in the
>>>> smartphone usability field, "buttons are bad" and promoting UI
>>>> inconsistency.
>>> 
>>> What inconsistencies are you thinking of?
>> 
>> Doing away with the concept of consistency itself, which is of great
>> value in UI design and usability:
>> 
>>     «We’re gonna start with a revolutionary user interface. Now why do
>>     we need a revolutionary user interface? I mean, Here’s four
>>     smartphones. And what’s wrong with their user interfaces? They all
>>     have these keyboards that are there whether you need them or
>>     not. And they all have these control buttons that are fixed in
>>     plastic and are the same for every application. Well, every
>>     application wants a slightly different user interface, a slightly
>>     optimized set of buttons, just for it.»
>
> So you are not talking about consistency inside the system but with other
> systems?

Consistency between application interfaces in the same system.

>> As quoted in [1].; What's silly is that it's really what you'd want to
>> avoid, you'd want the buttons to be as uniform as possible, and to share
>> as much as possible between different applications.
>
> Every single button I list below works the same in every app. I guess the
> volume might take a pic in camera? But what are you really talking about?

Buttons having the same physical location at the very least is already a
win consistency-wise, even if some of them have different purposes
between applications.

>> And having fixed plastic (or some other material) buttons for such
>> application interaction is a plus, not a minus. It will remove what
>> could be screen area, but it sounds to me Jobs wasn't alluding at
>> that specifically.
>
> You want to go back to the days of a physical keyboard?

Personally, I'd go with it, yeah, but overall at least more buttons even
if it's mostly a touchscreen.

>> 
>> [1]
>> https://medium.com/@stuartgannes/why-do-we-need-a-revolutionary-user-interface-58aa0fb8184

-- 
Nuno Silva

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  Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 22:14 +0000
  Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-05 19:15 -0400
    Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 23:43 +0000
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        Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 00:27 +0000
          Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 00:36 +0000
            Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 04:46 +0000
              Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 07:08 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 09:06 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 20:55 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 02:41 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 19:13 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 19:38 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 14:15 +0100
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 02:48 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 23:14 +0000
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 15:17 +0000
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                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:18 +0100
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-09 09:45 +0100
                Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 14:20 +0000
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