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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <10qui03$1m4ih$1@dont-email.me> <10r38en$2t5kl$1@dont-email.me> <69d55d30$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <8bucs9c0pyag$.19y2slslralqu.dlg@40tude.net> |
| Date | 2026-04-08 15:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <69d67738$1$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On Apr 7, 2026 at 6:52:43 PM MST, "Denny" wrote
<8bucs9c0pyag$.19y2slslralqu.dlg@40tude.net>:
> On 07 Apr 2026 19:38:24 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>
>> On Apr 7, 2026 at 8:39:03 AM MST, "Alan" wrote
>> <10r38en$2t5kl$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> On 2026-04-06 13:35, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On 06 Apr 2026 09:06:12 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 6, 2026 at 12:08:20 AM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
>>>>> <10qvm54$1uf62$4@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06 Apr 2026 04:46:31 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MacOS is almost as filled with open source as you are with an
>>>>>>> agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They abandoned Bash, because of some unexplainable allergy to GPLv3.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have no obligation to use bash.
>>>>
>>>> Only the most popular *nix shell in the world? But then, macOS isn’t
>>>> really a *nix system, is it?
>>>
>>> So popularity is what's important in deciding what is and is NOT Unix?
>>
>> And macOS is the most popular CONSUMER Unix.
>
> If you stumbled into say Starbucks which seems to attract Mac users
> for some reason and at random asked 10 of them if they know what OS
> Macos or OSX is based upon I'd be surprised if you found a single
> person who would know.
The concept of UNIX is not something most know. Or need to.
> And rightfully so. Apple's market is targeted at USERS not bit
> twiddlers. Sure there are exceptions but they are few.
Yup.
>
>>>>
>>>> So, what shell do they offer instead? Why is it preferable to Bash?
>>>
>>> zsh is now the default shell for macOS.
>>>
>>> And it's got basically everything bash has plus:
>>>
>>> Programmable command-line completion that can help the user type both
>>> options and arguments for most used commands, with out-of-the-box
>>> support for several hundred commands
>>>
>>> Sharing of command history among all running shells
>>>
>>> Extended file globbing allows file specification without needing to run
>>> an external program such as find
>>>
>>> Improved variable/array handling (non-zero-based numbering)
>>>
>>> Editing of multi-line commands in a single buffer
>>>
>>> Spelling correction and autofill of command names (and optionally
>>> arguments, presumably file names)
>>>
>>> Various compatibility modes, e.g. Zsh can pretend to be a Bourne shell
>>> when run as /bin/sh
>>>
>>> Themeable prompts, including the ability to put prompt information on
>>> the right side of the screen and have it auto-hide when typing a long
>>> command
>>>
>>> Loadable modules, providing among other things: full TCP and Unix domain
>>> socket controls, an FTP client, and extended math functions.
>>>
>>> The built-in where command. Works like the which command but shows all
>>> locations of the target command in the directories specified in $PATH
>>> rather than only the one that will be used.
>>>
>>> Named directories. This allows the user to set up shortcuts such as
>>> ~mydir, which then behave the way ~ and ~user do.
>>>
>>> Widgets. Both built and implemented by ordinary functions widgets can be
>>> bound to hotkeys.
>>>
>>> Function autoloading. A performance optimization for function that might
>>> be pre-loaded and run on demand. The intent of loading functions as
>>> separate file is also to support function features across different zsh
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> That was all from Wikipedia, but this:
>>>
>>> "Zsh, in my opinion, appears to be more efficient because it is a newer
>>> shell designed to be an extended version of Bash. Zsh adds some features
>>> that are well-executed and well-liked by the majority of users. As a
>>> result, it was bound to gain the popularity that it now enjoys. Zsh has
>>> more features than Bash, such as advanced globbing, different startup
>>> file configurations, and so on."
>>>
>>> <https://linuxsimply.com/bash-scripting-tutorial/introduction/bash-vs-zsh/>
>>>
>>> Note the source.
>>
>> Good to know. Thanks.
>
>
> So how many Mac users hang out in the shell?
Few.
> Very few compared to Linux and Windows.
> Linux because it attracts technical type users and Windows because it
> often requires dropping to command prompt to repair the system.
>
>>>>
>>>>>> They abandoned GCC (which meant getting rid of Objective C), for
>>>>>> the same reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> And?
>>>>
>>>> And tried to push their developers to use an entirely new, proprietary
>>>> language.
>>>
>>> And?
>>
>> I am not a developer but have not heard any complain about this.
>
> It seems odd to me but software and hardware as well evolves.
Exactly. I am surprised AppleScript is still around. Wonder if / when Apple
will make a replacement.
>>>>
>>>>>> What version of Python do you get with your macOS installation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't know / don't care -- which you will twist to be bad.
>>>>
>>>> Not only preinstalling an out-of-date version of Python, but risking
>>>> incompatibilies if the user tried to install a more up-to-date version
>>>> from a third-party source.
>>>>
>>>> You described macOS as “filled with open source”. “Filled with
>>>> out-of-date, less popular open source that users didn’t ask for” might
>>>> be a better description.
>>>
>>> It's funny how you complain (in the same post no less) that:
>>>
>>> Apple doesn't give you enough choice ("push[ing] their developers to an
>>> new language")
>>>
>>> and that the don't make choices for you.
>>
>> He has no real point.
>
> Well he is correct regarding Apple making choices for you.
> Many people really don't care as long as these system as a whole does
> what they need.
I care if I can get my work done easily and well. MacOS *OFTEN* is a great
choice for that. It -- like all other systems -- has weaknesses and tradeoffs.
> And Apple is extremely good at delivering that level of performance.
Mostly. I have a lot in my Documents and it is shared with iCloud and that is
being "wonky". But that is a one-off.
> Of course the user needs to determine their own needs and pick a
> system that checks all the boxes.
Absolutely.
> People don't purchase Macs to play games for example.
> At least the smart ones.
> Windows or Linux are better at gaming. Better yet, buy a console.
Yup.
--
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 20:28 +0000
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-11 13:50 -0700
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too <infoman@quarks.net> - 2026-04-11 17:20 -0400
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-11 14:48 -0700
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-12 11:18 +0100
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 03:59 +0000
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-12 10:30 +0100
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Kwang Ho <easternasiacoast66@chin.org> - 2026-04-11 17:13 -0400
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-12 11:13 +0100
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-12 11:12 +0100
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-11 14:20 +0000
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-11 14:12 +0000
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-11 08:46 -0700
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-08 07:00 +0000
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too "d.w." <trapper@freeke.org> - 2026-04-08 10:21 -0400
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 02:52 +0000
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too "d.w." <trapper@freeke.org> - 2026-04-09 08:53 -0400
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-09 23:28 +0000
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too "d.w." <trapper@freeke.org> - 2026-04-09 23:29 -0400
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-10 11:15 +0100
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-10 22:38 +0000
Re: Apple Is Becoming Dependent On Linux, Too rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-11 00:40 +0000
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