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Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting

From Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.unix.shell, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting
Date 2026-03-13 22:02 +0100
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On 2026-03-13 13:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 13/03/2026 10:20, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> I do not claim that this distinction defines the difference between
>> scripting languages and programming languages.  That difference
>> is not well defined.
> 
> In the end its mere convention.
> 
> To my mind scripting tends to be less complete and more specialised. And 
> probably interpreted. And designed to use standalone *programs* to do 
> the heavy lifting.
> 
> Whereas 'language' implies more general application and uses *libraries* 
> to do the grunt work.

The term 'language' has already very specific characteristics; it
is about vocabularies and grammar, syntax and semantics, and more.
(In its common meaning and in its variant as programming language.)

> [...]
> 
> I am not claiming that is an exact definition, but its how my mind 
> separates the terms...

(Here your thinking confuses already well defined termini.)

We should not muddy long existing clear terms but focus on the yet
unclear terms we spoke about, to make clear what we personally mean
for example by "scripting", since that term is not well-defined as
was already stated.

Janis

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  Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-12 03:42 -0400
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