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Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.unix.shell, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting
Date 2026-03-12 19:03 +0000
Organization A little, after lunch
Message-ID <10ov2m4$296s5$3@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 12/03/2026 18:46, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> On 12.03.26 15:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 12/03/2026 12:44, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>>>
>>> Shell scripting seems to bring out the critic in everybody.  Nobody 
>>> likes
>>> the way other people shell script.
>>>
>> Perhaps that is why I never ever shell script if at all avoidable.
> 
> The application domain of shells and (for example) "C" are quite
> different. There's task that are easy done in shell where there's a
> huge and unnecessary overhead with languages like "C".
> 
>> Like Regexp, and PERL it seems to be the province of wannabe gurus who 
>> cant code C.
> 
> You think that folks can only program [sophisticatedly] in shell *or*
> languages like "C"? - I'm positive that you're wrong.
> 
> The shell language has a lot of peculiarities, though. And you need
> to learn the languages you use (shell or otherwise) in any case. Some
> don't seem to do that, though; for languages like "C" it's mandatory
> to read a textbook, it seems, while for shell I've seen that many use
> existing paragons (good or bad ones) to "learn" it or web pages like
> the one mentioned in this thread.
> 
> Since when I started with Unix I saw most experts know "C" and shell;
> on the Unix platforms you have (and often want to use) both languages.
> With the separation from Unix, the independent development of the "C"
> languages, things have probably changed later.
> 
> Regexps are a basic key feature of the Unix platforms, something that
> was long missing on other platforms. You need to learn the Regexps,
> though, with simple expressions you can do powerful things, and with
> simple inconsistencies in Regexps you can produce subtle flaws.
> 
> Janis
> 
As with SQL I have always found it quicker to do anything complex, in C, 
as it is in fact quicker than trying to do it in SQL, or regexp, both in 
terms of design time and indeed execution time.

There are people who like to master arcane syntaxes and there are people 
who just want an efficient route to a solution.



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Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-12 07:21 +0000
  Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-12 03:42 -0400
    Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-12 12:34 +0000
      Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-03-12 15:08 +0000
        Just out of curiosity... (Was: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-12 15:22 +0000
          Re: Just out of curiosity... (Was: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-12 15:29 +0000
          Re: Just out of curiosity... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-03-12 16:31 +0000
          Re: Just out of curiosity... (Was: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-12 19:04 +0000
      Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 17:58 -0400
  Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-12 09:00 +0100
    Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-12 10:59 +0100
      Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-03-12 12:44 +0000
        Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-12 14:12 +0000
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              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-12 20:18 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:37 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-13 19:24 +0000
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              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:44 +0000
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                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 19:02 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 12:21 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 20:56 +0000
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                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:52 +0000
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                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 04:59 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-14 02:35 -0400
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 18:38 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-14 12:38 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 08:21 -0700
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 17:48 +0000
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          Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-12 19:46 +0100
            Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-12 19:03 +0000
              Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-12 20:44 +0100
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:32 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-13 12:57 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 13:33 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:17 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-14 01:21 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:58 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:01 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-13 23:07 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 03:08 +0000
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                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:08 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-14 02:53 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-13 22:37 +0100
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:54 +0000
                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-03-14 04:00 +0100
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                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 12:03 +0000
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                Re: Over-Elaborate Shell Scripting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 12:07 +0000
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