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Re: Unsettling bash tutorial

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.unix.shell, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Unsettling bash tutorial
Date 2026-03-18 18:29 +0000
Organization A little, after lunch
Message-ID <10peque$2ghs$4@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 18/03/2026 18:19, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 03:00:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Alas, 'the tech' has become much different now.
>>     Steve always said his favorite programming language was 'solder'.
>>     Today the tech is two or three levels more complex, all ICs. With the
>>     ultra-shrinking of chips now Normal Humans can't even do-it-yourself.
>>     3mm thru-hole is about the practical limit even for younger eyes and
>>     hands (did a bunch of those, Dremel drill-press and micro-bits and
>>     pointy irons).
> 
> Soldering the headers on boards like the Pico if I screw up and order the
> headerless version is about the limit of my soldering abilities any more.
> Even for that I use a magnifier. I never even tried surface mount.

That's about where I stand too. 0.1" pitch I can just about  handle

Solder paste, solder balls and hot air is above my pay grade

-- 
The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before 
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

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                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-20 02:45 -0400
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              Re: Unsettling bash tutorial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:06 +0000
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-16 09:52 -0400
                Re: Unsettling bash tutorial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 14:21 +0000
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